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Frozen front brake pads, Need help - how to beat them into submission |
Pat Garvey |
Feb 21 2010, 06:07 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Title says it.
Look this is NOT for my 914, but it is for a Porsche. Mod may feel free tp move this topic, but I need help fast! Car (911) has been parked for 4 years indoors. Front pads seem to be frozen to the discs. Don't think it's a caliper problem because they are almost new. Just seems to be an inactivity thing. Rears spin freely. I jacked the car up to make certain the rears were free - they are. Placed a 1X4 through the cookie cutters onto the discs. Pounded on it with a rubber mallet. No effect. Truck's coming for this car (sold). Suggestions? Thanx, Pat |
underthetire |
Feb 21 2010, 06:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Pat, ive had pads stick, but usually just rocking the car back and forth breaks them free. Good luck man. I hate time crunches.
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Dr. Roger |
Feb 21 2010, 06:50 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
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Eric_Shea |
Feb 21 2010, 07:48 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Hit them with a big hammer... the car is sold so, it will be the new owners problem! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
(sorry Ferg) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif) Seriously, rock it, or pull the springs off the top of the caliper and get a BF screwdriver in there. The new owner will probably want new pads etc. if those are in that condition so... no great loss. Just get them free so you can stick it on the truck. |
Pat Garvey |
Feb 21 2010, 08:27 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Hit them with a big hammer... the car is sold so, it will be the new owners problem! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (sorry Ferg) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif) Seriously, rock it, or pull the springs off the top of the caliper and get a BF screwdriver in there. The new owner will probably want new pads etc. if those are in that condition so... no great loss. Just get them free so you can stick it on the truck. Eric, Can you be more specific (diagrams, pics, etc) about the springs. Sorry, but Ferg is my buddy too & I don't want any surprises for him. Pat BTW - they're new pads (five years ago)(zero miles). Pat |
rick 918-S |
Feb 21 2010, 08:34 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,494 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Did you press the brake pedal? The soft lines my be swelled up inside holding pressure on the pads. You may need to remove the front wheels and do what Eric said.
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Dave_Darling |
Feb 21 2010, 10:27 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Pretend you're changing the pads: Remove the wheels, remove the pins and spreader springs, and pull the pads out. You may have to apply gentle force to them (e.g., a punch and a BFH) to move them out and break them free of the corrosion which is what has likely stuck them to the pads.
Or you can try pushing or pulling the car (in neutral, with someone in the car ready to steer and brake or use the handbrake) to break the bond. --DD |
McMark |
Feb 21 2010, 10:29 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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Pat Garvey |
Feb 22 2010, 07:00 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
OK, I knew than answer before I asked the question. Just hoped that someone had found an "easy" fix. Wish this fix could work on a 914.
This is the fix: 1.Remove wheel. 2. Beat (rubber mallet) disc severely. 3. Tap caliper lightly with said rubber mallet. Listen for a click". 4. Insert BFS (screwdriver) into vents. Beat liberally, until movement is noted. 5. Replace wheel & do the roundy round until corrosion on disc is abraded. 6. Go have a drink of something special & wait for the body pains to hit from all the above. I HATE being old! Pat p.s. - you guys were useless for this, and I know you've all done this. Sorry. |
rick 918-S |
Feb 22 2010, 07:22 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,494 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
OK, I knew than answer before I asked the question. Just hoped that someone had found an "easy" fix. Wish this fix could work on a 914. This is the fix: 1.Remove wheel. 2. Beat (rubber mallet) disc severely. 3. Tap caliper lightly with said rubber mallet. Listen for a click". 4. Insert BFS (screwdriver) into vents. Beat liberally, until movement is noted. 5. Replace wheel & do the roundy round until corrosion on disc is abraded. 6. Go have a drink of something special & wait for the body pains to hit from all the above. I HATE being old! Pat p.s. - you guys were useless for this, and I know you've all done this. Sorry. Useless... maybe. But we still love ya man! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
Ferg |
Feb 22 2010, 07:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Thanks Pat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
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jmill |
Feb 22 2010, 07:43 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I've bought plenty of old beaters with frozen brakes. I pull the tire and remove the 2 caliper bolts. Turn the steering wheel so you can get a good hammer angle on both sides of the caliper. I then beat the caliper off the rotor. You'll have a ridge on the rotor where the pad didn't rub. You have to slide it up over that. Use a brass hammer and a wood block so you don't tear up the caliper. It's labor intensive but works without tearing stuff up. You free up the piston with the brake pedal wood block and C clamp. Get it freed up and then slide it back on. You just want it to move not stop good right?
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Eric_Shea |
Feb 22 2010, 11:34 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE you guys were useless for this, and I know you've all done this. Sorry. I'll be sure to jump in and help on the next thread. |
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