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quick question, wheel bearings |
jea69 |
Mar 30 2010, 11:59 AM
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doing unspeakable things to iron Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 13-March 08 From: norway Member No.: 8,811 Region Association: Scandinavia |
hello, my front wheel bearings are going south, someone told me that they are the same as vw 411/412,is this correct? i have a vw dealer nereby , but no porsche dealer within miles... the snow is going so must hit the road (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
btw it is a stock 1970 1,7 |
tat2dphreak |
Mar 30 2010, 12:13 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
nope, I don't think they are the same(first time I've heard of anyone saying this, anyway). order them from PMB, (aka Eric Shea) on here, and they will be shipped quickly.
if he's out of stock then gpr, pelican or anyone else will be able to get them to your door. edit, just saw you were in Norway. mittlemor germany might save you some shipping (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
jea69 |
Mar 30 2010, 12:17 PM
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doing unspeakable things to iron Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 13-March 08 From: norway Member No.: 8,811 Region Association: Scandinavia |
nope, I don't think they are the same(first time I've heard of anyone saying this, anyway). order them from PMB, (aka Eric Shea) on here, and they will be shipped quickly. if he's out of stock then gpr, pelican or anyone else will be able to get them to your door. edit, just saw you were in Norway. mittlemor germany might save you some shipping (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) thanks for reply, guess ill have to order some and wait ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
Tom_T |
Mar 30 2010, 12:18 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
hello, my front wheel bearings are going south, someone told me that they are the same as vw 411/412,is this correct? i have a vw dealer nereby , but no porsche dealer within miles... the snow is going so must hit the road (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) btw it is a stock 1970 1,7 IIRC - they are the same, but still check the 914 PET for the `70 -4 part no. (down-loadable for free from the Porsche/PAG website in the Classics section), then cross check part no. with the VW p/n for the 411/412 from the VW dealer to be sure - as you may avoid the Porsche part/dealer up-charge BS at VW. A VW dealer will probably need to back order them anyway, but it's worth a call to price check vs. the on-line 914 parts sources below, which you can Google the p/n, as well as directly checking at those below. Also PMB, PP, AA, Pelican, Sierra Madre Collection, TC'sGarage, etc. can get them for you online & delivered to your door! FAG is OEM & among the best of them, but steer clear of cheapo repos that were not OEM/OES for bearings to VW-Posche back in the 70's. Inner & outer Fronts, & Rear are all still available. BTW - the calipers on the 914-'s are also 411/412 parts, but most rebuilds out there are not as good as those done by Eric Shea at PMB - a vendor member on this website. I have no idea how that compares to international shipping, duties, etc. to Norway. Skoal! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
Tom_T |
Mar 30 2010, 12:21 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
nope, I don't think they are the same(first time I've heard of anyone saying this, anyway). order them from PMB, (aka Eric Shea) on here, and they will be shipped quickly. if he's out of stock then gpr, pelican or anyone else will be able to get them to your door. edit, just saw you were in Norway. mittlemor germany might save you some shipping (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) re: Eric/PMB & Mittelmotor in DE, ... but I disagree with Wayne on possibly same in the 411/412 & think they were a VW parts-bin part, as were/are the 914/4 calipers. |
jea69 |
Mar 30 2010, 12:34 PM
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doing unspeakable things to iron Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 13-March 08 From: norway Member No.: 8,811 Region Association: Scandinavia |
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tat2dphreak |
Mar 30 2010, 12:40 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I could entirely be wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) this is just the first I've heard of the 411 being the same bearings...
I know when I bought my first 914, the VW guy at a VW shop said the calipers were the same as disc brakes off a particular ghia(kit?)... long story short... not even close. << I ended up converting that 914 to BMW calipers, then later when I got this car, Eric came along and I bought his amazing rebuilds on all 4 corners. I also picked up a BOX of 914 bearings (73+) on an ebay auction... 6 pairs of each inner/outer... |
jea69 |
Mar 30 2010, 01:18 PM
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doing unspeakable things to iron Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 13-March 08 From: norway Member No.: 8,811 Region Association: Scandinavia |
found this: part numbers for vw and porsche does match VWC-311-405-645 - OUTER FRONT WHEEL BRG ECONO T1 66-79 T3 62-74 VWC-311-405-625-D - INNER FRONT WHEEL BRG ECONO - BEETLE/GHIA 5/68-79 - TYPE-3 4/68-74 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
Cap'n Krusty |
Mar 30 2010, 01:39 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Same as the rear wheel bearings on a Golf/Jetta 2 with rear drum brakes. They also come in kit form with both bearings and the seals, and should be readily available in any country where VWs are at all common.
The Cap'n |
jea69 |
Mar 30 2010, 02:00 PM
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doing unspeakable things to iron Group: Members Posts: 51 Joined: 13-March 08 From: norway Member No.: 8,811 Region Association: Scandinavia |
Same as the rear wheel bearings on a Golf/Jetta 2 with rear drum brakes. They also come in kit form with both bearings and the seals, and should be readily available in any country where VWs are at all common. The Cap'n thanks for the info capt`n , guess ill be getting my bearings afterall. |
davep |
Mar 30 2010, 02:37 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,151 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
The 914/4 front brakes were sourced from the VW 411.
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Rand |
Mar 30 2010, 02:51 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
My local VW shop carried the right bearings. A quick phone call will tell ya.
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Joe Owensby |
Mar 30 2010, 06:48 PM
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JoeO Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 7-January 06 From: Spartanburg, SC Member No.: 5,385 Region Association: South East States |
If you are in a pinch for time, check your local FLAPS. A few years ago when I was rebuilding my car, I ordered all new bearings from a reputable 914 vendor. When I was installing them, I noticed that the bearings didn't seem to tighten up right (when I was initially seating the bearings before loosening them and just taking out the slack per the manual). I looked closely at the bearings, and noticed that the new brand name bearings had an inner radius that was smaller than the one on the original factory bearing I was replacing. This smaller radius was ever so slightly tightening up on the radius on the spindle. Hard to explain without pictures, but I am 100% sure this is what was happening, and was not correct. I called Advance auto, and they had the beraings in stock. These bearings had the correct inner radius on them, and fit up to the spindle perfectly. JoeO
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