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Removing stubborn ball joints |
Rleog |
Apr 17 2010, 10:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Middleton, MA Member No.: 1,239 Region Association: North East States |
Anyone have any tricks for freeing up the ball joint nuts?
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r_towle |
Apr 17 2010, 10:05 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Take the cotter pin off the bottom and the locking plate.
Use a pipe wrench to remove the round nut that holds it in place. Pull the a-arm down and pull the whole strut out of the car. Then use a ball joint fork to get it off. Rich |
Dave_Darling |
Apr 18 2010, 01:56 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Air chisel. You should be replacing the nut anyway, so it doesn't really matter if you booger it up removing it.
--DD |
914Sixer |
Apr 18 2010, 06:30 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,897 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Soak every joint with PB Blaster or similar substance for a day or so.
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Rleog |
Apr 18 2010, 07:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Middleton, MA Member No.: 1,239 Region Association: North East States |
I'd been soaking with PB Blaster for awhile now, then going at it with hammer and chisel without success.
Don't know why I didn't think of the pipe wrench..duh. Got a grip on each nut with a BFPW but they wouldn't budge, even with smacking the end of the PW with a hammer. Think I'll go purchase an air chisel and add that to my tool cache. Thanks for the suggestions. It'll come. |
J P Stein |
Apr 18 2010, 07:32 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I use a 2-2 1/2 foot cheater bar (2 inch pipe) on the pipe wrench handle.....the same for install. Gimme a large enough lever & I'll move the world. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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matthepcat |
Jul 30 2011, 06:31 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
I am having a hell of a time trying to get one of my ball joints off! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)
Driver side came off with PB blaster, a wrench and a breaker bar. I gave up on the passenger side....PB blaster, wrench, heat and 4 feet of breaker bar will not break it loose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I read some people had to actually cut it off, but I don't see how you could do that without cutting the a-arm. This is stopping forward progress to my 5-lug conversion. Maybe weld a socket onto the nut? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Matt |
matthepcat |
Jul 30 2011, 07:51 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
After hours of traditional methods, anger lead me to the grinder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
Gotcha bitch! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img687.imageshack.us-11125-1312077109.1.jpg) Who says anger doesn't solve problems? |
JimN73 |
Jul 30 2011, 07:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 535 Joined: 6-October 07 From: Gig Harbor Member No.: 8,192 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
did it last week. Two hits with a 4 pound hammer did the trick.
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nathansnathan |
Jul 31 2011, 09:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 31-May 10 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 11,782 Region Association: None |
I got both mine off with this balljoint socket and a 1/2 inch pneumatic impact gun after soaking in liquid wrench. My nuts are undamaged and I see no reason to purchase new, probably not as well made nuts.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/65-89-porsc...66#ht_500wt_956 |
matthepcat |
Jul 31 2011, 10:04 AM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
I have heard those are not great for removing very stuck ball joints, that is why they call them installation sockets.
I got both mine off with this balljoint socket and a 1/2 inch pneumatic impact gun after soaking in liquid wrench. My nuts are undamaged and I see no reason to purchase new, probably not as well made nuts. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/65-89-porsc...66#ht_500wt_956 |
Gint |
Jul 31 2011, 10:19 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
They work better than anything else if you use an impact wrench and keep the socket up tight against the nut. Zip... off.
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76-914 |
Jul 31 2011, 11:43 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,507 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I agree with Rich. Careful with the pipe wrench, though. Have you ever noticed that the jaws aren't parallel with each other. So as the torque increases so does the inward force thus mashing. So when working with a relatively thin metal such as the ball joint nut that force can transfer to the ball joint which can work against you. Also, the teeth on both the heel and hook jaws should be sharp and angular. This is where the wrench gets it's "grip". Jim hit the nail on the head. Impact! A quick strike with a 3 or 4 lb hammer against a 14" pipe wrench will work better than a 24" pipe wrench. Kinetic force is a wonderful thing.
ps If need to avoid any maqshing then adjust the wrench until the jaws just grip with the back couple of teeth. But be careful; this is also the point where it will slip and bust the shit out of your knuckles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
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