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> what you got for guts, alternative internals for our motors
rsrguy3
post May 12 2010, 09:40 PM
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Is there a list of alternative internals(non-vw) for our rebuilds that would make our re-builds cheaper and stronger, Example... Chevy rods. Consider this a tips and tricks thread, as well. Also, I don't have good experiences w/the forum search, so please place as many links as you can dig up, here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 12 2010, 10:30 PM
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I got 2 squirrles, a penguin and a raoch stuffed in there. You should hear that motor scream...
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post May 12 2010, 10:37 PM
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KB 96mm Hyperutectic Aluminum pistons, stock Mahle cylinders machined to 96mms and Raby 9550 cam...the rest was stock and worked well together (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post May 13 2010, 08:38 AM
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I used the same pistons and cylinders for my 2056.

I am also using ceramic lifters instead of steel (NLA, but great if you can find them).

My engine is carbed, so I have more choice in dizzys. I am using a Mallory Unilite, and a Bosch Blue coil.

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post May 13 2010, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(kg6dxn @ May 12 2010, 11:30 PM) *

I got 2 squirrles, a penguin and a raoch stuffed in there. You should hear that motor scream...


You can't penguin a 914...

I have the same setup as DanT, works like a charm.
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post May 13 2010, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(DanT @ May 12 2010, 11:37 PM) *

KB 96mm Hyperutectic Aluminum pistons, stock Mahle cylinders machined to 96mms and Raby 9550 cam...the rest was stock and worked well together (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



Dan,

Did you dyno your engine after these improvements? I am wondering what kind of HP increase I can expect if I go this route with my 2.0.

I am not ready to go all in on a Raby 2270 but I sure would like to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) - I just can't afford it right now. What kind of HP increase over stock 73, 2.0, with FI, could I expect with new pistons/cylinders and a Raby cam?

Anyone have any idea on cost for this type of "improvement"?

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post May 13 2010, 09:52 AM
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2056 motor are a blast compared to any stock motor.
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post May 13 2010, 09:53 AM
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My 2056 consists of Kieth Black pistons, AA cylinders, Hastings rings, Raby 9050 cam and valvetrain, 1.7 rockers with swivel adjusters, 2.0 heads, Manton pushrods, stock crank, H-beam connecting rods.

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post May 13 2010, 10:15 AM
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Those are some nice engines!

With regards to HP, 95 to 115, or 95 to 125, especially with some suspension improvements and weight reduction makes a big difference...

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post May 13 2010, 10:33 AM
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So, which Chevy rods are used? And what about the Buick crank? Loving the pics guys keep it up.
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post May 13 2010, 10:39 AM
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Here's my 2.7

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post May 13 2010, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(Cevan @ May 13 2010, 10:53 AM) *

My 2056 consists of Kieth Black pistons, AA cylinders, Hastings rings, Raby 9050 cam and valvetrain, 1.7 rockers with swivel adjusters, 2.0 heads, Manton pushrods, stock crank, H-beam connecting rods.

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Hey george, what type and model are you using for that nice power plant? Mike
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post May 13 2010, 11:08 AM
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A lot of performance VW's use SBC valve springs after a lot of machine shop time, but all the other parts are specific for the engine. There are a lot of counterweighted cranks machined for SBC rod journals, but not SBC rods.
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post May 13 2010, 12:59 PM
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2056 motor are a blast compared to any stock motor.

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9.5:1 CR + 10# flywheel=hang on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I am running AA piston cylinders, webcam 163, dual spring valves, stock 2.0 crank and rods, 911 adjusters.

you would not believe what shaving 7 lbs off the flywheel does...
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post May 13 2010, 09:35 PM
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Just for clarity..... I'm talking about the type 4 motor and it's internals.
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post May 13 2010, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(70_914 @ May 13 2010, 09:08 AM) *

A lot of performance VW's use SBC valve springs after a lot of machine shop time, but all the other parts are specific for the engine. There are a lot of counterweighted cranks machined for SBC rod journals, but not SBC rods.



So, your saying no Chev con's, just journals? The reasoning behind this? How about the Buick crank? Is there a con rod made for a different motor, like a v8 motor that dimensionally similar/stroke (you know get 8 for 4)? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post May 13 2010, 11:39 PM
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I am running a 2056 with Keith Black pistons, Len Hoffman heads, Raby cam, stock crank and rods, Jennvey 45mm throttle bodies, Emerald M3D FI management, SS heat exchangers and Triad exhaust. The set-up dynoed 150hp at the wheels. Its great.

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