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Front Shock Insert Recommendations? |
kenshapiro2002 |
Jun 2 2010, 01:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Now that I'm replacing one of my struts and destroyed a shock in doing so, I'm assuming I should just get two shocks. I have 911 BOGE struts. What are my choices and pluses/minuses of those choices?
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kenshapiro2002 |
Jun 2 2010, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Am I correct that the BOGE inserts are oil filled like the originals, and that KYB and Bilsteins are gas? Also, does it make any difference that I have 911 struts? Do the shocks fit either 911/914?
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underthetire |
Jun 2 2010, 03:42 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Actually, looks like the front KYB's are oil. The rear Kill Your Back are the Gas adjust.
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Valy |
Jun 2 2010, 04:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
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jaxdream |
Jun 2 2010, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 974 Joined: 8-July 08 From: North Central Tennessee Member No.: 9,270 Region Association: South East States |
Are you using the " M " type caliper Boge strut ?? If so I believe that the inserts for the 914 will fit Boge housings ok, you could get the inserts for the 911 , but you have them on a 914 slight difference in damping / rebound, personally iffen it were me , I get a set of Bilsteins for a 914 and install them . Make sure that you specify that they are for a Boge strut housing and not for a Bilstein housing. Good Luck ...
Jack / Jaxdream |
kenshapiro2002 |
Jun 2 2010, 04:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yep...3" spacing on the calipers...that's "M" right? Good point about the 914/911 damping/rebound rates. Thanks.You've been a lot of help lately and it's appreciated.
Are you using the " M " type caliper Boge strut ?? If so I believe that the inserts for the 914 will fit Boge housings ok, you could get the inserts for the 911 , but you have them on a 914 slight difference in damping / rebound, personally iffen it were me , I get a set of Bilsteins for a 914 and install them . Make sure that you specify that they are for a Boge strut housing and not for a Bilstein housing. Good Luck ... Jack / Jaxdream |
MDG |
Jun 2 2010, 04:45 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
Yes the Boge are oil filled. My front end is off a mid-80s Carrera and I replaced mine with the Bilsteins that fit the Boge struts. They have been excellent.
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jaxdream |
Jun 2 2010, 04:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 974 Joined: 8-July 08 From: North Central Tennessee Member No.: 9,270 Region Association: South East States |
Alright dude , go gettcha some Bills !!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
No problem , you been workin your butt off on that car , keep it up and before you know it , you'll know it stem to stern . Jack / Jaxdream |
underthetire |
Jun 2 2010, 05:25 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Actually, looks like the front KYB's are oil. The rear Kill Your Back are the Gas adjust. The KYB are all gas. BOGE are oil. If the fronts are, they sure don't list gas, just twin tube. The rears are the gas-adjust crap. Never used them myself. |
DanT |
Jun 2 2010, 05:45 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Koni adjustables anyone?
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rfuerst911sc |
Jun 2 2010, 06:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
One of the nice things about the Boge strut housing is that you can order Boge, Koni or Bilstein inserts to fit. I currently have the same 3 " ear 911 struts with the standard oil filled Boge inserts. When I replace these inserts I will get Bilsteins.
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kenshapiro2002 |
Jun 2 2010, 06:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Sounds like I;m going for the Bilsteins too.
One of the nice things about the Boge strut housing is that you can order Boge, Koni or Bilstein inserts to fit. I currently have the same 3 " ear 911 struts with the standard oil filled Boge inserts. When I replace these inserts I will get Bilsteins. |
kenshapiro2002 |
Jun 3 2010, 08:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Just pulled out my bad insert. It reads
734609 MADE IN USA P7 113 7639 1033 The "Made In USA" threw me off. What kinda shock is it? |
Cupomeat |
Jun 3 2010, 09:38 AM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Hmmm, Maybe Monroe?
BTW, I went with the adjustable Konis when I did mine and the only available Konis for the 914 are the "sports". A very nice shock/strut on the track but too hard for the street, even at the softest setting. I'd go with the bilsteins as the reviews on them would sell me if I was buying and I LOVE them on my 993. I hope that helps. |
DanT |
Jun 3 2010, 10:05 AM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
I have had front adjustable Konis on 4 of my 914s and they have all been street/AX/Track cars...
I have never felt the Konis were too stiff when set on the softest setting. JMO. Each persons backside has a different calibration for what is comfortable on the street and what is not. Had Koni adjustables on my '87 Carrera also (front and rear) and thought that car was great on the street. My latest '75 914 build will have Koni adjustables both front and rear. My '70 and '73 also had front and rear Koni adjustables and were very nice street cars. My 914-6 2.7RS had custom valved Bils front and rear and also worked very well. I just prefer to have some adjustability for a dual use car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Cupomeat |
Jun 3 2010, 10:39 AM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I hear you Dan about the "calibration" of the backside, but I also had Koni adjustables before and they were fine.
The issue is that you cannot buy regular koni adjustables for the 914 anymore, as they only offer the "sports". |
ConeDodger |
Jun 3 2010, 10:45 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,606 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Koni adjustables in all four corners on mine. Set soft they are just fine. I set full soft for street and full stiff for autocrossing.
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kenshapiro2002 |
Jun 3 2010, 12:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Monroe makes inserts for 911 struts?
Hmmm, Maybe Monroe? BTW, I went with the adjustable Konis when I did mine and the only available Konis for the 914 are the "sports". A very nice shock/strut on the track but too hard for the street, even at the softest setting. I'd go with the bilsteins as the reviews on them would sell me if I was buying and I LOVE them on my 993. I hope that helps. |
kenshapiro2002 |
Jun 3 2010, 12:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,441 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Koni adjustables as inserts in BOGE struts? I'm confused. I thought they were replacement struts only.
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Cupomeat |
Jun 3 2010, 12:32 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well, I am not sure, but it is very likely. I'll see if I can validate that they made them for that application.
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