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shift linkage, rear linkage question |
raw1298 |
Jul 13 2010, 02:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
I think I screwed up or am missing something simple. Can the shift rod in the tunnel be installed with the engine in? It is a 72 and I am switching it to a sideshift. I have all the parts, I just can't seem to get the bar into the tunnel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Any suggestions?
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drgchapman |
Jul 13 2010, 03:05 PM
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Current Stable Group: NoClassifiedAccess Posts: 922 Joined: 20-September 04 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 2,789 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Make sure your seat belt bolt on the driver's side isn't too long and hindering the install.
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detoxcowboy |
Jul 13 2010, 09:39 PM
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What is in the way?
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raw1298 |
Jul 13 2010, 09:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
If try to install from inside the car the throttle cable tube is in the way, from the engine compartment, the engine is in the way. Cant get it to go in the right spot in the tunnel or it binds up and jams. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I had planned on doing it before installing engine, but did not go through my list of things to do and put them in order.
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raw1298 |
Jul 13 2010, 09:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
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Mike Bellis |
Jul 13 2010, 10:03 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Do you have the correct engine bar? It should go in. I can get mine in/out and my engine is bigger than yours.
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raw1298 |
Jul 13 2010, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
I have the one with the hole in it. I took the solid one out with the tailshift.
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Mike Bellis |
Jul 13 2010, 10:17 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
I have to start in front of the bar. take the rear of the rod over the bar. push the rod rear wards until the front of the rod is at the firewall hole. then push it forward into the tunnel. works every time. if that don't work for you, the engine is coming out.
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raw1298 |
Jul 13 2010, 10:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
I will give it a shot tomorrow. I gotta get up in 4 hours to go to work. Thanks and g'nite. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif)
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JWest |
Jul 14 2010, 07:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,662 Joined: 6-January 03 From: Fort Worth, TX Member No.: 97 Region Association: None |
I have to start in front of the bar. take the rear of the rod over the bar. push the rod rear wards until the front of the rod is at the firewall hole. then push it forward into the tunnel. works every time. if that don't work for you, the engine is coming out. If that does not work, then support the engine and drop the engine mount bar. That will give you plenty of room. |
EdwardBlume |
Jul 14 2010, 08:23 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
I did this on a '73 and it was a bear.... but possible....
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tat2dphreak |
Jul 14 2010, 09:42 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE If that does not work, then support the engine and drop the engine mount bar. That will give you plenty of room. this is what I had to do... I had the same mistake. I supported the engine on a jack, and disconnected the bar to allow the bar to go into the tunnel... with a new bushing, there was no other way. |
raw1298 |
Jul 14 2010, 09:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
I have to start in front of the bar. take the rear of the rod over the bar. push the rod rear wards until the front of the rod is at the firewall hole. then push it forward into the tunnel. works every time. if that don't work for you, the engine is coming out. If that does not work, then support the engine and drop the engine mount bar. That will give you plenty of room. Yes that is what it took. And about 2hours with a 4 year old asking questions all the while. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) At least he kept me from swearing! All is done for now. Time to search for the thread that tells me how to line all the connections up so it will shift smooooth. The new bushings are great. Thanks for all the advice. |
detoxcowboy |
Jul 14 2010, 09:26 PM
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raw1298 |
Jul 14 2010, 09:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
Wow that is awesome. I havent even cleaned up yet. Thanks!!
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raw1298 |
Jul 19 2010, 10:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
This is supposed to bolt up? It was welded when I got the parts. There is no hole (filled in by welding?) to bolt into. Should I just weld back or is there a better way? I also am not sure how to line this up. Any threads or pictures would help. I am refering to the linkage.
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Cupomeat |
Jul 19 2010, 12:07 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
This is supposed to bolt up? It was welded when I got the parts. There is no hole (filled in by welding?) to bolt into. Should I just weld back or is there a better way? I also am not sure how to line this up. Any threads or pictures would help. I am refering to the linkage. Hmmm, that shift rod should be one piece... If you don't get the angle right in securing the two pieces of the bar together, it will not be easy to align the linkage. I'd recommend getting another side shifter bar to compare to (OR REPLACE). |
raw1298 |
Jul 19 2010, 02:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
There is a hole in the outer bar that looks like it should have a bolt screw into the solid bar. The solid bar has the hole welded shut as far as I can tell. The linkage came from 3 different sources so I could be very wrong, but it did not look to be a single piece when I got it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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Cupomeat |
Jul 19 2010, 02:27 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well, the original stock side shift bar is one piece and you might want to save yourself a Huge amount of headache by getting the right bar.
I'll see if I have an extra hanging around. |
raw1298 |
Aug 8 2010, 06:39 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 9-March 09 From: Rocklin,Ca. Member No.: 10,148 Region Association: Northern California |
Well, it can be done. I placed the transmission in second gear, the shifter in second gear, and centered the shift rod in the center of the hole in the engine bar. Tack welded in place for now, it shifts smoothlt in all gears. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Have not road tested yet, but engine running and on stands it shifted perfect. Thanks for the help and suggestions.
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