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sc42766 |
Oct 29 2010, 02:48 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 4-September 10 From: quebec Member No.: 12,133 Region Association: None |
Hi , i have a 1.7 l that is going to need some work , so i would like to know what is the best way to have more hp on my 914 with a budget of 1000 to 3500$ + or - .
i looked at the possibility of putting a 2.0 l but i think it is only 20 hp more from my 1.7 , would it be worth it ? or is there other solutions . tanks for the suggestions |
gothspeed |
Oct 29 2010, 02:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
Bigger pistons and cylinders (96mm) would make it a 1911cc and you may be able to keep the injection (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) ? It should be less than $500 for parts and you would still have a fairly reliable/driveable motor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
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Bleyseng |
Oct 29 2010, 03:01 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
going from a 80hp 1.7 to a 2.0l is 15 hp. Now building a 2056 w/Raby cam is 115hp is a 35hp jump and really makes a 914 fun to drive. Find a complete 2.0L engine with everything intact as they are around and rebuild it.
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Drums66 |
Oct 29 2010, 03:18 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Mor hp.....Morph into something bigger (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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windforfun |
Oct 29 2010, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,822 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
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biosurfer1 |
Oct 29 2010, 03:42 PM
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Teener fo Life! Group: Members Posts: 3,020 Joined: 3-August 03 From: Roseville, CA Member No.: 977 Region Association: Northern California |
Yikes...hope that last post was a joke!
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windforfun |
Oct 29 2010, 04:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,822 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Yikes...hope that last post was a joke! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
SirAndy |
Oct 29 2010, 04:20 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Now building a 2056 w/Raby cam is 115hp is a 35hp jump and really makes a 914 fun to drive. Find a complete 2.0L engine with everything intact as they are around and rebuild it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Your budget should get you there, provided you do the grunt work yourself. A 2056 with a good cam and carbs will really wake up that little car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
RFoulds |
Oct 29 2010, 04:22 PM
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Green Teen 66 Group: Members Posts: 837 Joined: 10-August 09 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 10,656 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I know its been said a million times before but...
The 914, and really ANY Porsche, is not about HP. If you must go for HP, then realize a 15-20Hp increase in this car is significant. but with that said, I am much more likely to put the money into suspension, wheels, tires, brakes, etc. The already superior handling and light weight of the 914 can be improved dramatically using relatively cheap upgrades, and to me, these improve the fun factor of the car far more than an HP increase. But, if I were to assume you were already doing all the suspension, brake and wheel/tire upgrades and want more HP to go along with it, then my choice would be: larger P&C package, cam and twin carbs. But say goodbye to reliability. |
KELTY360 |
Oct 29 2010, 04:25 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,034 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You realize that +/- really means "+" don't you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
You'd be amazed at what a difference 20 hp makes when you're starting out with 70-80. That's a 25-30% increase. Where you'll really feel it is torque. You'll actually be able to accelerate coming out of a turn, rather than waiting for rpms to build again. It all depends on your own perception of power and whether there is ever enough. Lots of guys have spent the time and $$ to boost power only to find a few months later they want more. If you fall in the 'never enough' category then you better do a flat -6 conversion or a subie or a V-8. Of course all of those fall under the heading of "+". |
ME733 |
Oct 29 2010, 04:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 842 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Atlanta Ga. Member No.: 9,209 Region Association: South East States |
..YOU have got to get a better set of cylinder heads, than the 1.7 heads you have., look for some ...914 2.0 heads,1.8 heads or even 2.0 BUS heads. any of these have bigger Valve sizes and ports...With out the air flow capability of better head flow(induction) a performance cam will not give you much of anything in the way of HP gains., and the idle and bottom end will be a mess.
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pcar916 |
Oct 29 2010, 08:46 PM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None |
Use the money to go to a track driving school... not kidding. Then improve your car a little at a time (as RFoulds said above) by starting to shed weight and improving the suspension one thing at a time. Heck, you can get rid of about 50 lbs just by removing the sound deadening material under your carpets and the rear bulkhead padding.
Forget the engine except to make it reliable. As long as it and the transaxle are healthy your fun will increase exponentially as you learn to drive the car!!!!! |
sc42766 |
Oct 29 2010, 09:34 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 4-September 10 From: quebec Member No.: 12,133 Region Association: None |
Use the money to go to a track driving school... not kidding. Then improve your car a little at a time (as RFoulds said above) by starting to shed weight and improving the suspension one thing at a time. Heck, you can get rid of about 50 lbs just by removing the sound deadening material under your carpets and the rear bulkhead padding. Forget the engine except to make it reliable. As long as it and the transaxle are healthy your fun will increase exponentially as you learn to drive the car!!!!! i understand what you mean , but my 1.7 is making a knocking sound , so i need to put money on the engine anyway so i was thinking that since i was there , might as well do it . tank's every body for your comments . |
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