Opinions on big six drivability, 3.0, 3.2, 3.3T, and 3.6 |
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Opinions on big six drivability, 3.0, 3.2, 3.3T, and 3.6 |
r_towle |
Nov 12 2010, 03:58 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
What are your opinions on the best balanced motor (larger 6) for the 914.
This is not a 4-6 debate...just an overall opinion of how you think the cars handle and drive with the larger motors. I know Sir Andy has a 3.6, not sure if there are others. Andy, what is your opinion...is it to much motor for a 914? To heavy? Autox now not a fun sport with the large motor? Figure a flared car, but not a super flared car. Rich |
mepstein |
Nov 12 2010, 04:06 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,309 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I know when I drove the narrow body 3.2 euro six with motronic, I decided right then and there it was the engine for my car.
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d914 |
Nov 12 2010, 04:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,331 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States |
3.0 at 180
3,2 at 215 both doable , plenty of power but also livable.. Ive driven a 3.6 914,,,,,,, damn!!!!!!! |
underthetire |
Nov 12 2010, 04:38 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
I drove a 3.2 flared car, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I had wood for a week.
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shoguneagle |
Nov 12 2010, 05:03 PM
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shoguneagle Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 3-January 03 From: CA, OR, AZ (CAZOR); New Mexico Member No.: 84 Region Association: Northern California |
I am doing a project 914 Sixer with a 3.2. I am doing it because of the Motronic fuel injection and I live at 7,000 ft. part of the time. I still like the 2.0, 2.2, and 2.4 with Webbers. If I still lived all year round in California, I would have a 1970 with one of those engines and Webbers. I guess I am from the "old school" which means there is nothing like glass packs and carbs to create the "sound". Light car with great exhaust sounds.
To specifically answer your question, I think the 3.2 is ideal along either a 3.0 or a 3.6 as second possibilities. Steve Hurt |
MDG |
Nov 12 2010, 05:33 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
My 3.2 is on a stand waiting. Most of the paint is done and I'll do all the assembly over the winter. I must admit I loved the old 2.2 with Webers - what a sound!
But the added power of the 3.2 and having the Motronic for cold and damp mornings - anyone who has started a carb car in the late fall knows - to me it's the perfect combination. I thought of the 3.6 but found the 3.2 out of a wreck with only 32k kilometers on it and couldn't pass it up. |
scotty b |
Nov 12 2010, 05:38 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
3.0 SC for price
3.6 for performance 3.2 for price and performance I love a 3.0 but the improvement in driveability with the 3.2 is so much nicer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
IronHillRestorations |
Nov 12 2010, 05:45 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,726 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
The 3.2 Motronic engine is a great way to go, no clogged jets, no fouled plugs, reach in and turn the key.
The only complaint I had about my 3.0 carb'd conversion was the idle jets, and the occasional fouled plug. As far as driveablilty, the first time my wife drove the car she started from a dead stop IN 3RD GEAR! It didn't jack rabbit, just a little low end rumble. The 3.0 with carbs is way easier and fewer specialty parts. |
rfuerst911sc |
Nov 12 2010, 05:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
I really like my 3.0 with Weber carbs. Simple with good power and driveability. However when going carbs if you have the coin go PMO vs. Webers. I have PMO's on my 83SC with the same 3.0 and the difference between the two carb setups is quite noticeable. The Webers are a pain in the ass in the cold. The PMO's are a pain for 20-30 seconds then smooth right out and drive great.
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Drums66 |
Nov 12 2010, 06:04 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
.....3.2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)(drive 1 you'll love it!) |
patssle |
Nov 12 2010, 06:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
I really like my 3.0 with Weber carbs. Simple with good power and driveability. However when going carbs if you have the coin go PMO vs. Webers. I have PMO's on my 83SC with the same 3.0 and the difference between the two carb setups is quite noticeable. The Webers are a pain in the ass in the cold. The PMO's are a pain for 20-30 seconds then smooth right out and drive great. So what is "cold" when you guys say carbs have trouble? I've started my /4 with dual Webers and it starts like a charm in the upper 40 degrees. Hell they always start like a charm, even after sitting for months. |
scotty b |
Nov 12 2010, 06:13 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
I really like my 3.0 with Weber carbs. Simple with good power and driveability. However when going carbs if you have the coin go PMO vs. Webers. I have PMO's on my 83SC with the same 3.0 and the difference between the two carb setups is quite noticeable. The Webers are a pain in the ass in the cold. The PMO's are a pain for 20-30 seconds then smooth right out and drive great. So what is "cold" when you guys say carbs have trouble? I've started my /4 with dual Webers and it starts like a charm in the upper 40 degrees. Hell they always start like a charm, even after sitting for months. I regret to inform you sir but you have been had. You do not have a set of Weber carbs. What you have is a Honda. |
SirAndy |
Nov 12 2010, 06:25 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,673 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I know Sir Andy has a 3.6, not sure if there are others. Andy, what is your opinion...is it to much motor for a 914? To heavy? Autox now not a fun sport with the large motor? Too much? No ... Too heavy? No ... Fun at AX? Yes ... A few things about the 3.6L: First, it's not too much power but it will get you in trouble quicker than you can say 'Holy shit'. You have to be smooth and careful. Especially on wet roads. You'll need some rubber. I only run 225x7 street tires and i can spin those at will in any of the lower gears. Again, smooth is the key. AX is still fun, but i had to relearn about everything i thought i knew. Remember when they taught you to look ahead a turn and set your car up for it? Well, those days are over. There literally is NO time between corners, let alone time to set up anything. If you don't nail your line coming out of a corner you WILL be in the wrong place for the next one. There is no time for correction ... Once you hit about 4500 rpm, you're just hanging on for the ride. That thing pulls like crazy up to the rev limiter and still wants to go ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) The low end torque of the 3.6 makes for a wonderful daily driver. Get's good highway mileage too. I average about 24Mpg, and i don't baby that car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) |
Maltese Falcon |
Nov 12 2010, 07:13 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,693 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
T4 2.0 with euro pistions , great momentum car on the track, 30 mpg on steady cruise and stone reliable.
Marty |
r_towle |
Nov 12 2010, 07:19 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
T4 2.0 with euro pistions , great momentum car on the track, 30 mpg on steady cruise and stone reliable. Marty I have done the /4 thing...getting bored with it. Looking for a deal on a /6 motor and the prices seem decent now... I am looking for this type of car...quoted by Andy QUOTE First, it's not too much power but it will get you in trouble quicker than you can say 'Holy shit'. Rich |
Maltese Falcon |
Nov 12 2010, 07:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,693 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
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rick 918-S |
Nov 12 2010, 07:24 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,478 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
IMHO there is no such thing as too much engine. Just lack of traction both in excelleration, decelleration and lateral direction. If you set the car up to handle the increase in HP and torque you'll be good to go.
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r_towle |
Nov 12 2010, 07:30 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
One ebay (which I find tends to have higher prices than most places)
A 3.6 can be had for 5-7k A 3.3 Turbo is 8-10k now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Attached image(s) |
ChrisFoley |
Nov 12 2010, 07:35 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,934 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Too much? No ... Too heavy? No ... First, it's not too much power but it will get you in trouble quicker than you can say 'Holy shit'... Once you hit about 4500 rpm, you're just hanging on for the ride. That thing pulls like crazy up to the rev limiter and still wants to go ... The low end torque of the 3.6 makes for a wonderful daily driver... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with all of the above. If you have the budget go for it. |
iamchappy |
Nov 12 2010, 07:39 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I think a 2.8 would be interesting, that said my 3.1 turbo is great around town off boost, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) on boost
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