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Gustl |
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914 enthusiast & historian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,857 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria ![]() ![]() |
a german friend found this car offered by a dealer and might be interested
does anybody know the car? VIN, other numbers, history, .... Attached image(s) ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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ConeDodger |
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Apex killer! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24,095 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
Wolfgang,
Where in California is it? There are so many of us here that I am sure someone could lay eyes on it for your friend... |
Gustl |
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914 enthusiast & historian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,857 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria ![]() ![]() |
ooops ... little misunderstanding (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
the car is at a dealer in Germany, but as you can see at the pics, it still has the blue plates Gustl |
Tom_T |
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Wolfgang,
I'm guessing that those are not the original plates for that 914-6, because the sequence is well after my 73 2.0's 530GVS originally licensed in Nov. 72 ("U" vs. "G" would've been a year or more after mine)- unless it's a late sale new of a 71 or 72 into the 73 or later calendar year. It could've been an out-of-state (originally sold outside Calif.) then re-registered in CA in that UHI sequence, or a re-registration from whatever it's prior/original Calif. plate was when new, or it could be just some Calif Blue Plates stuck on there. I can check at AAA to see if it comes up on their DMV computer at all. BTW - I'm just getting back to my emails/PMs after the holiday, so answering your last PM on your -6 DMV info is next. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hope you had a good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif) ! Tom /////// |
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,245 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
Looks like it used to be Signal Orange ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
.... or a yellow - see at the passenger door handle? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Also, one must ask if it was a Euro 914-6 without F sidemarkers & imported to the USA in the mid/late 1970's (ergo the later series blue CA plates), or if somebody "shaved" the sidemarkers!!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,245 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
or a yellow - see at the passenger door handle? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Both front fender wells are solid orange as is part of the long. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,245 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
Also, one must ask if it was a Euro 914-6 without F sidemarkers & imported to the USA in the mid/late 1970's (ergo the later series blue CA plates), or if somebody "shaved" the sidemarkers!!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Good point. It also lacks the US-only "PORSCHE" script on the engine lid. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) And if the rear bumper is correct, it would indicate a early car rather than later. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) to both Andy! .... many eyes are better than any one pair!
I was just pointing out in addition that there is yet another yellow & maybe a green on there by the door handle - as well as the orange (I did notice the wells & long). So perhaps an accident or rust repair/replacement at the door/jamb? In addition to lacking the sidemarkers & PORSCHE letters - it also has USA F TS & Taillight Lenses, but those would've been required to be changed upon import to the USA - IIRC. I just noticed too that it's a USA 914-6 rear badge, not the VW-Porsche one. Makes one start to wonder!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Wolfgang needs to get someone near it to take a look in person! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ... I'd want to know if this was a "made-up" or "rear" 914-6, with all of these discrepancies & oddities. BTW - Wolfgang's "new" -6 has a known original CA blue plate in the "D" series at late May 71, while my 73 2L has a "G" 16+ months later at Nov. 72 - so I'm guessing that it wasn't until 1975-76 or later to have this one's "U" series plates. I don't recall what year they added the 7th front digit to the CA blue plates (i.e: #xxx### series) - maybe 78 - 80-ish - prior to going to the white ones, so this plate was before that, but not much with "U" to "Z" series. So if an early -6 per the rear bumper, then it was definitely re-registered in CA later in the 70's, as I speculated above. Anyone out there have a CA blue plate with ### Uxx ?? - If so, what year was it registered for that plate in CA? |
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914 enthusiast & historian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,857 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria ![]() ![]() |
.... many eyes are better than any one pair! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) that's why I love this forum everyone figures out another detail (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
G e o r g e |
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Dr ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I have plate 702 mQw off of a 75
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,968 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Anyone out there have a CA blue plate with ### Uxx ?? - If so, what year was it registered for that plate in CA? My original Creamsicle first licensed/registered in Sep 1974 has this plate: Attached image(s) ![]() |
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,245 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
My original Creamsicle first licensed/registered in Sep 1974 has this plate: Your "9" is broken ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Thanx George & Jeff!
Wolfgang, I just called AAA & this 914-6 is currently registered in CA on a PNO (Planned Non-Operation) since 2009, and was first registered under this plate in CA in 1977, and it does go to a 1970 Porsche, but the part of the DMV computer record that AAA can access does not indicate the model type at all (not even 914 - let alone 4 or 6). You or he would have to contact DMV for other details & prior registration info. directly from Calif. DMV. That leaves the question on 1970-77 as to where & what model it was. I'll send you another quick PM on what they said about your own "new" -6. |
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Mid-Engn. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,417 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
I noticed another issue. Count the spokes on the wheels & if my eyes are correct there are (10) spokes, so it appears to be a 914-6 or (5) lug conversion. 4-cyl cars have only (8) spokes.
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Mid-Engn. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,417 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
I noticed another issue. Count the spokes on the wheels & if my eyes are correct there are (10) spokes, so it appears to be a 914-6 or (5) lug conversion. 4-cyl cars have only (8) spokes. Tom Forgot to add this photo of a 914-6 (10) spoke wheel. T Attached thumbnail(s) ![]() |
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,245 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
I noticed another issue. Count the spokes on the wheels & if my eyes are correct there are (10) spokes, so it appears to be a 914-6 or (5) lug conversion. 4-cyl cars have only (8) spokes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) It's a factory /6 with 5-lug steelies ... |
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
I think a key issue is to check the VIN at all 3 places to verify that it is in fact a factory 6, as well as OE colors, condition, etc. - since it has some USA vs. Euro/World versions' discrepancies, & an unknown first +/- 7 years up to 1977 when these plates were assigned. Not saying it doesn't appear to be a six, but I've also seen a couple of fake-sixes passed off over the years.
Unfortunately, AAA wouldn't give me the VIN, not being my car. |
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
I noticed another issue. Count the spokes on the wheels & if my eyes are correct there are (10) spokes, so it appears to be a 914-6 or (5) lug conversion. 4-cyl cars have only (8) spokes. Tom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ... time for new glasses Tom, as I counted 10 holes (spokes) on it's wheels in the 1st post's pix. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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