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Search failed. Anyone done home powder coating? |
rick 918-S |
Feb 12 2011, 12:04 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,481 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
First anyone bought a powder coating gun from Harbor Freight?
How well did it work? Did you use your kitchen oven? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Did it stink up the house? Did your wife catch you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Did you get the look? You married guys know what I'm talking about.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I have some wheels I need to get powder coated in order to get the Ravenna car off jack stands. |
StratPlayer |
Feb 12 2011, 12:07 PM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,278 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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mepstein |
Feb 12 2011, 01:02 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,312 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You want to buy a used oven off craigslist and put it in the garage or workshop.
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ejm |
Feb 12 2011, 01:42 PM
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel Group: Members Posts: 2,693 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 224 Region Association: None |
The problem with powdercoating your home is finding an oven big enough. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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spare time toys |
Feb 12 2011, 01:57 PM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
How soon you need this? I have the stuff other than an oven I can send you to try if you want. I just cant get to storage to dig around untill monday.
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Beach914 |
Feb 12 2011, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 968 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Aliso Viejo Member No.: 11,519 Region Association: Southern California |
You should definitely not use your home oven to cure the powder. I agree with mepstein in that you should buy an old oven on Craigslist or at a garage sale. And as stated above you will only be able to do small parts that will fit into an oven.
I worked for a major lock manufacturer in Colorado for 10 years and we constantly researched and used the best epoxy and acrylic powders available for your doorknobs. Baking is usually done at about 315 - 350 degrees for about 2o minutes as I recall. Degreasing and rinsing the parts is also critical. We did ours on an automated conveyor line. Too bad I was raising kids instead of working on cars back then. It would try it if I had the money and space for an oven. |
ONTHEGRIND |
Feb 12 2011, 03:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 286 Joined: 10-November 08 From: California Member No.: 9,738 Region Association: None |
I have been coating in my garage for the past 5 years mostly engine based coating not so much powder coating as I rather have performance over looks I have a commercial based oven as well as a small chicago electric oven that I use for smaller parts..
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stewteral |
Feb 12 2011, 04:39 PM
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Old Member Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 4-December 07 From: Camarillo, CA Member No.: 8,424 Region Association: Southern California |
[quote name='rick 918-S' date='Feb 12 2011, 10:04 AM' post='1430475']
First anyone bought a powder coating gun from Harbor Freight? Hey Rick 918-S, I am LOVIN' Powder coating car parts using the Harbor Freight kit! -How well did it work? ==> It took a little practice, but I found that the powder must be "floated" to the target piece using the high voltage power supply to DRAW it to the surface. I have my airflow set at 30 PSI, static, and pulse the trigger to puff in short bursts. -Did you use your kitchen oven? ==> ABSOLUTELY! ....for everything that will fit. -Did it stink up the house? ==> NO....while it can be smelled, it's not unpleasant and it dissipates quickly. If you see smoke, you are cooking too long! -Did your wife catch you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ==> NO Wife, BUT, I learned to be CAREFUL walking from the garage to the oven as the smallest shock will shake off some powder. I learned to hold a box or platter under the parts during transport. Also, I now have a partially powder coated oven door. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ==> Not only do I get a great tough finish, it is SO QUICK! I hang the parts in a cold electric oven, turn setting to 375 deg. and in 8-10 Minutes, it's Done! No more priming, waiting, painting, waiting and then trying to NOT scratch the finished part!!!! -Did you get the look? You married guys know what I'm talking about.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ==> FANTASTIC!! I did all the shroud metal for the 411 engine in a flat black along with the valve covers! For my V8 914, I did a piece in my breather system in a beautiful gloss black. -I have some wheels I need to get powder coated in order to get the Ravenna car off jack stands. ==> I used to worry about powder coating Alu wheels, but since the temps are so low and for a short time, there should be no problem I can see. I'll powder coat my 411 powered 914 with a great looking silver. Eastwood has every color you could want and from what I've seen have the best pricing, without buying 50 lbs. HOWEVER, IF ANYONE KNOWS OF A LOW-PRICED POWDER VENDOR, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!! Best, Terry |
rick 918-S |
Feb 12 2011, 05:01 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,481 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Thanks Everyone. Hey Larry, I'm just going to buy the stuff and have it around incase I want to do somemore stuff later but thanks for the offer!
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Elliot Cannon |
Feb 12 2011, 05:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
I don't gave space for an oven in my garage, so I take my stuff to a commercial powder coating shop. They have ovens large enough to do a truck frame. If you use your own oven, don't you need 220 volts or can you use a gas oven?
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ONTHEGRIND |
Feb 12 2011, 05:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 286 Joined: 10-November 08 From: California Member No.: 9,738 Region Association: None |
the small oven I have is only 20x20x20 inside which doesn't take to much space.
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rick 918-S |
Feb 12 2011, 05:57 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,481 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I don't gave space for an oven in my garage, so I take my stuff to a commercial powder coating shop. They have ovens large enough to do a truck frame. If you use your own oven, don't you need 220 volts or can you use a gas oven? I have a big garage and lots of power for welders and stuff. There used to be a powder coater about 4 miles from me but they went out of business. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) It's hard to make money when you have to run huge ovens and stuff in a cold climate. |
IronHillRestorations |
Feb 12 2011, 06:37 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,728 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
I got an Eastwood "Hot-Coat" kit years ago, and it works great. Just like any paint, surface prep is crucial to good adhesion. After some experimenting I found the temps they listed were too hot.
The hardest part is getting the larger powder coated part from the rack into the oven without bumping into something and knocking the powder off. I got a used oven for $50 and it works great. Small gas welding rod works well for custom hangers. |
McMark |
Feb 12 2011, 08:33 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I built my own oven for about $50. I'll post pictures tomorrow. Easy.
I'm thinking about building a bigger two-element oven soon. Feel free to call me tomorrow Rick and I can tell you all my experiences with powdercoating. |
rick 918-S |
Feb 12 2011, 09:33 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,481 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
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McMark |
Feb 12 2011, 10:09 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
That's fine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/phone.gif)
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Gint |
Feb 13 2011, 09:40 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You've seen that oven in my garage right Rick? Cost me $15 at a garage sale. You do not want to use the oven in your house. The powder stinks like mad. I don't know if it's really toxic, but you won't know that from the smell.
Like Perry said, It's can be a pita getting parts to the oven. Avoid knocking your rack around or the powder has a tendency to fall off the parts. |
rick 918-S |
Feb 13 2011, 10:18 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,481 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
You've seen that oven in my garage right Rick? Cost me $15 at a garage sale. You do not want to use the oven in your house. The powder stinks like mad. I don't know if it's really toxic, but you won't know that from the smell. Like Perry said, It's can be a pita getting parts to the oven. Avoid knocking your rack around or the powder has a tendency to fall off the parts. Ya, I do remember seeing it now. We just got a new gas oven. I don't think Sandy would be too amused if I had powder fall off inside the new oven and attach itself to the new oven. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'll do something else. |
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