 Electronic Ignition, I want to get rid of the points |
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| KaptKaos |
 Jun 4 2004, 01:03 PM
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Family  Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest  |
Looking for recommendations on which product to use and a procedure to follow so I can't screw it up too badly.
Let me know. Thanks, Joe 73 1.7 - (stock) |
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| RonnieJ |
Jun 4 2004, 01:06 PM
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RonnieJ Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 16-June 03 From: Sterling Heights, Michigan Member No.: 829 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I put a Pertroix in my 1.7 three months ago and it works great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif). All I've heard so far has been good, but I'm new to the 914 community.
ROn |
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| tat2dphreak |
Jun 4 2004, 01:50 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
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| Bruce Allert |
Jun 4 2004, 02:14 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
My Pertronics have been goin strong for over a year. Super simple install too... easier than points (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
.......b |
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| pbanders |
Jun 4 2004, 02:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 939 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 805 |
I installed a Crane X3000 a few years ago. Works fine, no need for timing/dwell adjustments any more. But I detected no improvement over the stock ignition system in terms of drivability or performance.
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| tat2dphreak |
Jun 4 2004, 02:36 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(pbanders @ Jun 4 2004, 03:18 PM) I installed a Crane X3000 a few years ago. Works fine, no need for timing/dwell adjustments any more. But I detected no improvement over the stock ignition system in terms of drivability or performance. yep, from what I hear, if you want a boost in power, mallory is the only way to fly... not cheap though... |
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| Kerrys914 |
Jun 4 2004, 02:50 PM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;) Group: Members Posts: 1,568 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Williamsburg, VA Member No.: 16 |
I have pertronix in my '74.
Has anyone heard that if you leave the ignition on and the car is not running (IE the engine dies) the pertronix will burn up? Cheers Kerry |
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| Bruce Allert |
Jun 4 2004, 03:05 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've heard about it but I've gone away with mine running & came back after 5 minutes with it not running and no harm was done. This I've done 3 or 4 times.
Now watch... now that I've said this I'll get marooned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .......b (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
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| seanery |
Jun 4 2004, 03:06 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
yes i have heard that.
so, i don't leave the key in the ignition anymore. 74 2.7 has a petronix and the 72 2.0 has a petronix too |
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| lapuwali |
Jun 4 2004, 03:20 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
The newer "Ignitor II" is supposed to cure this problem. You can apparently burn up your coil even with points if you leave the ignition on too long w/o the car running. I have a Pertronix in my Mini, and it's worked fine for several thousand miles (dunno for sure, the Pertronix works much better than the odometer).
I've also used a Crane in an Alfa, and while it worked great, installation was much more of a hassle. As for the Mallory, only if you don't have D-Jet, anymore. |
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| STL914 |
Jun 4 2004, 06:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-October 03 From: O'Fallon, MO Member No.: 1,271 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Joe,
I installed a Pertronix Ignitor in my 2.2 liter motor just after I bought my 74. That was back in 1998. I've had zero problems with it. In fact, the Ignitor has outlived my 74. The Ignitor and the motor now reside in my "new" 72 914. Not bad for a $60 investment. |
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| wheelo |
Jun 5 2004, 01:48 AM
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Dude Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 19-March 04 From: San Rafael, Ca Member No.: 1,818 |
Fellas - Pertronix works with stock D-jet Dizzy ?
Some say-no, but if you are running with now.. shit... I am gett'n me some... too ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| Mike9142.0 |
Jun 5 2004, 02:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 208 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(wheelo @ Jun 5 2004, 12:48 AM) Pertronix works with stock D-jet Dizzy ? I have a Pertronix in my 70 and 73 914 with stock D-jet, and in my 65 bug that is driven every day. The bug has 30k with the Pertronix over the last 4 years and never a problem. Pertronix is the only thing I willl use. |
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| tod914 |
Jun 5 2004, 01:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Question on the pertronix. It has two wires. A black one, and a black with red stripe. I want to verify that mine was installed properly by a shop.
Which wire goes to which lead on the coil? Does the red and black pertronix wire go on the same side as the red ignition harness wire or on the side with the black ignition wire? Thanks. If someone could scan the directions or know of a link that would be great. Thanks |
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| lapuwali |
Jun 5 2004, 02:40 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Black goes to the - post on the coil, black/red (or all red on some units), goes to the + side (or any other source of switched +12). If your car is running, it was installed properly.
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| seanery |
Jun 5 2004, 06:52 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I talked to the guy from Petronix today, invited him to come check us out and tell us about his products.
They have an ignitor II which is an improved version that does more stuff, including allows you not to worry as much if you leave the key in the on position. They also have a multiple spark box that seems quite nice. The ignitor II is not officially available for the 009 distributor, but can be found at some speed shops. There is a slight clearance issue that needs to be taken care of. Hopefully, if he shows up, he'll spread the word. |
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| carr914 |
Jun 6 2004, 04:43 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,899 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States  |
Been running MSD 6AL ignition box with MSD billit distributer on a 2.0 with webers for over 10 years. It's a great system.
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