Hot Start?, Ticked off owner! Options

[Razorbobsr]

Getting my car back from Porsche guy, drove 70 miles to home just fine. Get off interstate and engine stalls, hit key and nothing!!! Tach pegs at 7000 but no starter engagement, do have hot start kit. Car ran GREAT all the way home. Ideas? Help needed!! Thanks Bob

[Drums66]

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[Jeffs9146]

Similar Problem Someone Had Last Week!

His didn't have the same no starter engage but maybe a fuse, wire or ign switch.

[Razorbobsr]

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This prob is typical to the 914 according to Hussy at A/A, they sell a hot start kit that sometimes will fix it, but not in this case. Now I am looking for the next best fix. Bob

[SLITS]

Could be ignition switch ... they crack and all sorts of crap happens ... lots of heat in that little plastic switch ... new ones don't last for crap.

Good luck.

[Tom]

An easy way to cut the problem in half is:
Remove the large yellow wire from the starter solenoid and check for 12 volts between that wire and ground when trying to start. If you have 12 volts, then there is probably a starter solenoid problem. Gently tap the solenoid, hook up the yellow wire, and try again, sometimes the heat causes the solenoid to bind and not connect the batt to starter contacts. If greatly less than 12 volts, (Less than 9 volts), you have a connection problem between the key switch and the starter solenoid yellow wire. Possible ground problem also, check negative batt terminal and large ground strap at transmission.
In case you are not aware, the solenoid does two things; moves the starter motor gear out to connect with the flywheel, and makes two electrical connnection with two large contacts to give the starter motor the voltage and current to turn the starter motor.
Tom

[Ductech]

my car did this when i had a relay go bad due to water contamination. The relay was sucking up a bunch of juice to the point where the motor wouldn't crank. The thing that reminds me of my instance is that my tach would go to 7 grand when trying to crank over. Granted I have added a bunch of extra relays due to my subie conversion.

But in any of the relays that come on when the key is in the on position could be causing this possible in my humble opinion.

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[Dave_Darling]

Tach pegs at 7000? That's an ignition problem. That and the no-start together sound a lot like an ignition switch problem.

--DD

[Razorbobsr]

An easy way to cut the problem in half is:
Remove the large yellow wire from the starter solenoid and check for 12 volts between that wire and ground when trying to start. If you have 12 volts, then there is probably a starter solenoid problem. Gently tap the solenoid, hook up the yellow wire, and try again, sometimes the heat causes the solenoid to bind and not connect the batt to starter contacts. If greatly less than 12 volts, (Less than 9 volts), you have a connection problem between the key switch and the starter solenoid yellow wire. Possible ground problem also, check negative batt terminal and large ground strap at transmission.
In case you are not aware, the solenoid does two things; moves the starter motor gear out to connect with the flywheel, and makes two electrical connnection with two large contacts to give the starter motor the voltage and current to turn the starter motor.
Tom

Had the car flat bedded home, tried to start, same same. 12 V directly from battery to starter/ starter spins strongly/ ever so slightly moved solenoid wires/ car started!!!!!!!!!!!! Car has mostly sat last 2 yrs due to impending death in the family, but has been started fairly often and always started, had this same prob when driving car back from FL at gas a motel stops. What I dont understand is the fact that even after a long run, and a no re-start, cooling period, still no start! I am going to remove starter wires one at a time today, clean/wire brush each of them, and apply die-elect grease. I am thinking strongly about one of those HI-Touque starters????? I have them on 2 other Hi-po british cars and they work well with heat. Bob

[Razorbobsr]

Tach pegs at 7000? That's an ignition problem. That and the no-start together sound a lot like an ignition switch problem.
Switch is new, changed it myself, AA part. Bob
--DD

[Tom]

When you said moving the solenoid wires slightly and then it started, that points directly to a defective connection. Check those lugs well where they are crimped on. If suspect, crimp on a new spade lug on that yellow wire. Unless you have a built engine, you really do not need a high torque starter. Most all of the problems with these cars are bad grounds, suspect connections, etc, not the starter itself. No one else I know does this but, removing the starter and solenoid and removing the solenoid from the starter and cleaning it and lightly lubing , then wiping the solenoid plunger and plunger cavity will greatly improve the performance of the starter.
While it is apart, check and clean the contacts for the starter current at the rear end of the solenoid also.
Tom

[Jeffs9146]

No one else I know does this but, removing the starter and solenoid and removing the solenoid from the starter and cleaning it and lightly lubing , then wiping the solenoid plunger and plunger cavity will greatly improve the performance of the starter.

I have done this and it does help with the hot start problem, but it is only temporary if your starter or solinoid is going bad.