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> Think we'll ever see a 914 in D1 ???, DRIFTING has come to America :)
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post Jul 28 2004, 12:51 AM
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Watched a show tonight about Drifiting in the US, my wife commented about me driving our 911 like that (hanging the tail out, yippeeeee)...


I think the 914 might be better suited for this sport.

Not too sure what the rules are, I wonder if they allow engine transplants or conversions??? hmmmmm

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post Jul 28 2004, 01:02 AM
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post Jul 28 2004, 01:03 AM
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post Jul 28 2004, 01:07 AM
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actually I purchased this car with the intention of doing just that....that was over a year ago...maybe if it ever runs for more than 5 min without me breaking something.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Jul 28 2004, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jul 27 2004, 11:51 PM)
Not too sure what the rules are, I wonder if they allow engine transplants or conversions??? hmmmmm

I hope so. Someone at WCC AX mentioned it looked like I was trying out for a drifting competition. I suspect I could run the whole track using only the side windows if I tried. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif)
I love changing drift angles in a long sweeper with a little throttle input.
Sure was fun!
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post Jul 28 2004, 09:30 AM
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*sniff* I smell impending 901 breakage.
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post Jul 28 2004, 10:02 AM
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These cars aren't regular cars. They are full on race cars. The 901 would be the least of your worries. It would probably be easiest to go with a 3.6 and a G50 tranny.

I think on a 914 you would need to strengthen the rear suspension pickups because you'd probably rip them off in no time.

Mike, was this the show Rides? I saw it last night as well. Isn't it weird that they got rid of Jason Priestly but found a guy that sounds almost just like him?
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post Jul 28 2004, 10:43 AM
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I watched that show too last night - Rides on TLC.

While I respect the power it must take to get your tires to constantly break loose like that, I just don't understand the 'sport'...? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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post Jul 28 2004, 11:09 AM
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Speed is not an issue so how do they judge the winner?


You must have taken a pee break when they explained the points (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Speed is a consideration with the points (a car going faster while sideways will get more points than a slower sideways car), Points are also given with how well you can control the car staying closer to the walls with the @ss end of the car while drifting is worth more than staying in the middle of the course.

also, since the course changes direction, getting setup for the next turn/curve is very important,

At first I thought it was a goofy sport as well, but I bet half of the auto-x wannabes on this BBS cannot control thier car when it goes into a slide......I know spinning the tires and scrubbing off speed is not the fastest way around a auto-x course, but there are some corners that you can use a little drifting to get setup for the next corner or straight-away


what is funny is that many P-car people make fun of drifting, but when Hurley Haywood is test driving a Porsche on the track and pitching the rear end out people are awestruck..hypocrites I say, LOL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif)
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post Jul 28 2004, 11:19 AM
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I criticize drifting because of the beater cars they use. Comeon, you cant be serious... a 1985 Toyota Corolla? I know the 914 can be considered a VW or whatever, but i'd rather drive a huffy then a corolla...
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post Jul 28 2004, 11:43 AM
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the use of the Corolla is sorta "symbolic" since it was one of the first cars that was used and had a following..........I guess you are free for your opinion, but the same could be said (is said) of the 914 by others (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I like all cars, I'm not a "Porsche" elitist (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 28 2004, 11:48 AM
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post Jul 28 2004, 12:11 PM
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I had a great time watching the show, too, and was especially impressed by the sequence of three cars in the parking lot.

Do you suppose that the D1 cars are equipped with a mechanism to actuate the front brakes?

It would seem a little easer to break the tires free with some front brake input, and might help keep the speed under control.

I've seen a device that locks the front brakes added to muscle cars to assist in burnouts and launches.

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post Jul 28 2004, 12:15 PM
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They are not using beater Toyota Corollas at the top end of the sport. Regardless of the body these are purpose built race cars.

I confess that I initially thought it was stupid because it looked like a bunch of kids doing donuts in the street but after watching the Rides show I have a ton of respect for these guys. It may not be racing but these drivers have lots of car control skill. It's judged more like ice skating.
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post Jul 28 2004, 12:23 PM
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Drifting would be a shit pile more fun on ice and snow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Used to do it in a Willy's Jeep in pastures in Kansas during the winter - no spikes in the tires - wheeeeeeeeeee!
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post Jul 28 2004, 01:51 PM
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I'm underwhelmed.
Now WOO cars on a mile of dirt is sumthin' else.

Technically, this stuff is not "drifting" but a power slide.....doesn't sound so cool tho.

In my experience, a 914 sux at this sorta thing....unless you have 500 lbs of batteries in each trunk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) They're way to twitchy to hang the back end out for any length of time. Rotating the back end around a cone is really just the beginning of a snap spin.....if you catch it right, you look good, if not....oops.

You gotta go back to whem drivers were fat & tires were skinny to see really good drifts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 28 2004, 02:07 PM
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I haven't seen any of the programs on drifting, but can provide some input.

This is what I discovered by accident: If you have a Smart ARB up front it isn't hard to get the rear end to move exactly where you want it.

When mine was set way to tight during an autox, the sensation was that I was going so spin, but didn't. I was totally sideways, but also totally in control.

Actually fun.
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post Jul 28 2004, 05:26 PM
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beater car......damn I think it looks cool.....


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post Jul 28 2004, 05:28 PM
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wait MattR.....heres your beater for you....let the imports suck battle begin again....then again he may be driving a beater....but he can probably drive a wee bit better than you....
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post Jul 28 2004, 05:44 PM
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I could do this, in fact, I have in the winter like Slits says, on the show and ice for fun. I would rather do it in an old beater though than my 914. Tear up some rice burner and not my car. I am sure most would agree on that. I did some drifiting at the WCC in Howards car, full control and sliding around the corners. It was fun.
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