Steering rack '71 914-6, what is a ZF rack? |
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Steering rack '71 914-6, what is a ZF rack? |
Cairo94507 |
Nov 6 2011, 09:30 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,826 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Hello everyone,
So I occasionally see ZF steering racks mentioned on this site and others. What is it and how is it different (if it is) from the stock 914-6 steering rack? Inquiring mind (me) wants to know. I used the search function and only came up with one mention of a ZF rack....but I am search challenged. Thanks for the info. Michael |
Eric_Shea |
Nov 6 2011, 10:13 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Limited slip... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Eric_Shea |
Nov 6 2011, 10:14 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
OK, OK... basically stock.
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Richard Casto |
Nov 6 2011, 10:22 PM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
ZF is the manufacture for the OEM stock ring and pinion steering rack. They manufacture transmission stuff as well, so that is why you may hear about ZF LSDs.
Fun fact.. ZF is a German company and "ZF" stands for "Zeppelin Foundation" !! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Richard |
Cairo94507 |
Nov 7 2011, 07:44 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,826 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
OK, so that is just a stock 914 steering rack. They sell for $1,450 rebuilt? Wow. I was wondering if it had a quicker turning ration or something.
Thanks for the information guys. |
JFJ914 |
Nov 7 2011, 09:12 AM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 813 Joined: 13-June 03 From: Alpharetta, GA Member No.: 814 Region Association: South East States |
OK, so that is just a stock 914 steering rack. They sell for $1,450 rebuilt? Wow. I was wondering if it had a quicker turning ration or something. Thanks for the information guys. No, you will find ZF's on 911's, 914 racks have a VW cast into them. They are interchangable however. |
Cap'n Krusty |
Nov 7 2011, 09:46 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
ZF is the manufacture for the OEM stock ring and pinion steering rack. They manufacture transmission stuff as well, so that is why you may hear about ZF LSDs. Fun fact.. ZF is a German company and "ZF" stands for "Zeppelin Foundation" !! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Richard Actually, the real fun fact is that it translates as"Gear Factory" in English. The Cap'n |
Gustl |
Nov 7 2011, 12:28 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,525 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
ZF stands for Zahnrad Fabrik, what translates to Gear Factory
but ... they are owned by the Zeppelin-Stiftung, what translates to Zeppelin-Foundation |
Cap'n Krusty |
Nov 7 2011, 12:38 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Following the logic, they would call themselves "ZS", not "ZF" if the acronym meant Zeppelin Foundation. The Cap'n
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whatabout1 |
Nov 7 2011, 04:43 PM
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Toys in Red Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 6-March 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 5,676 Region Association: None |
Quaife used to make a quick ratio setup for the 914/911 rack.
Patrick Motorsports still lists them. $500 ! |
Eric_Shea |
Nov 7 2011, 06:08 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It would stand to reason that it's a 911ish part. It follows my line of thinking regarding torsion bars, spline count and 911 a-arms.
I saw a factory video of a 911 on the assembly line where they install the front end as one complete assembly; struts and all. When 6's received what was basically the 911T front suspension, I believe it came as a basic package and they slipped the proper size torsion bars for the 914 in them. That would mean the ZF rack, 911 a-arms and all. That's why we have a very unique 914-6 17mm torsion bar. |
Richard Casto |
Nov 25 2011, 07:54 AM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
ZF stands for Zahnrad Fabrik, what translates to Gear Factory but ... they are owned by the Zeppelin-Stiftung, what translates to Zeppelin-Foundation (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) I stand corrected! You learn something new every day! Richard |
bulitt |
Nov 25 2011, 07:58 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
I'd like to go for a ride in a zeppelin...helium only
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SLITS |
Nov 25 2011, 08:41 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
OK, so that is just a stock 914 steering rack. They sell for $1,450 rebuilt? Wow. I was wondering if it had a quicker turning ration or something. Thanks for the information guys. While the racks rarely need rebuilding, the price you quoted is absurd. Last time I checked, the rebuilders would do them for about $300. |
toolguy |
Nov 25 2011, 10:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,270 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
No real trick to doing it yourself. . I did mine when I put on the Turbo tie rods. . . nice to get fresh clean grease in it. . .
there are some adjustments and shims so take it apart carefully. . Took about 3 hours and 2 beers. . . Attached image(s) |
OmaPossu |
Nov 25 2011, 04:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 4-October 09 From: Finland Member No.: 10,886 Region Association: Scandinavia |
Okay, that's how it looks inside. Lets see if mine looks similar (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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draganc |
Nov 25 2011, 11:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 725 Joined: 2-November 09 From: central new jersey Member No.: 11,000 Region Association: North East States |
ZF stands for Zahnrad Fabrik, what translates to Gear Factory but ... they are owned by the Zeppelin-Stiftung, what translates to Zeppelin-Foundation Actually, my dad went to a training at ZF about 15 years ago and he told me that the F stands for Friedrichshafen, hence, Zahnradfabrik Friedrichshafen. Interesting fact is that Lemförder is part of ZF and the Z.S. |
Lou W |
Nov 25 2011, 11:42 PM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
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draganc |
Nov 26 2011, 12:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 725 Joined: 2-November 09 From: central new jersey Member No.: 11,000 Region Association: North East States |
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dlestep |
Nov 26 2011, 01:47 AM
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I am smilin'... Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 15-January 08 From: Sunrise Florida Member No.: 8,573 Region Association: South East States |
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