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StratPlayer
post Sep 30 2004, 03:38 PM
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F*** I just got a ticket from a worm of a motorcycle cop. He charged me with an improper turn... What sucks is I didn't make an improper turn. Sure everyone says they didn't do it. I find out the ticket is for 92 bucks. Then I find out what kind of crap one has to go throught to fight this ticket. They say, go to a driving class for and hour and no points will be against your license. Great, but cough up 50 bucks for the class and you still have to plead guilty to the charge. F**** EXTORTION.

I've seen this cop working this same area all the time. Its not like I didn't know he was there. So you think I'm going to give this worm a reason to pull me over. I guess he doesn't need one, he can always dream one up.

I feel ripped off. The system knows most people won't fight the charge because of the cost involved in fighting the charge. So they get away with extorting money from the public.

Just venting, I'm still always amazed how a 5'8 160 pounder can put on a uniform and suddenly he's 6'10 and 300 lbs.


EXTORTION

btw: The cop wasn't even on his motorcyle, he was standing on the sidewalk. Must not like my 914. He came out on the street to pull me over.
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post Sep 30 2004, 03:41 PM
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Can't you take it to court? In CA traffic tickets can be fought in court in front of a judge. The cop has to show up. Do your homework and you might be able to beat it.

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post Sep 30 2004, 03:45 PM
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I got hit with a $450 ticket for passing a school bus with flashing lights. I didn't, so I asked for a court date. The cop does not show up (which they often don't) and I got my money back. It cost me zero to fight it. I didn't need no stinkin' lawyer. I knew I was right.

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post Sep 30 2004, 03:52 PM
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it costs your time and the money you could be making if you were working though. Taking time off work to go fight a traffic ticket isn't a viable solution for everyone. YMMV.

That said, if I was wrongly given a ticket for $450, I'd fight it too. a $25 ticket, I may just suck it up and pay it. Depends on how wrongly accused I feel, I suppose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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post Sep 30 2004, 03:56 PM
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When I lived in Utah I got speeding tickets for doing 3, 5, and 6 miles over the speed limit.

I got a ticket for jaywalking.

I got a ticket for not making a complete stop at a stop sign although I had pulled into a parking slot on the side of the curb BEFORE the stop sign.

I got pulled over one night after work because the cop suspected me of stealing 10 ten speed bikes, even thought I was driving a Hyundai Excell hatchback and was wearing my Wendy's uniform (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I got pulled over durring high school lunch by 3 cops because they suspected that " I had broken out of jail and stole this car." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I was the only person in town with a rusted baby-shit green color 71 Buick Skylark. AGAIN, I was in high shcool going to lunch on my 1/2 hour lunch break, and I got pulled over for breaking out of jail and steeling my car! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I got woke up at 2:00 am by a cop knocking on my door telling me he got a complaint that my music was too loud. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Do I need to express more reasons why I left?
Granted, a absolutly georgous geographical state, but definatly a challenging and trippy place of people to live with. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Sep 30 2004, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(Jenny @ Sep 30 2004, 01:52 PM)
it costs your time and the money you could be making if you were working though. Taking time off work to go fight a traffic ticket isn't a viable solution for everyone. YMMV.

That said, if I was wrongly given a ticket for $450, I'd fight it too. a $25 ticket, I may just suck it up and pay it. Depends on how wrongly accused I feel, I suppose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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Jenny,

One has to figure in what the impact to their insurance is.

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post Sep 30 2004, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(StratPlayer @ Sep 30 2004, 02:38 PM)
He charged me with an improper turn...

how exactly does a "improper turn" look like ?

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post Sep 30 2004, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(scruz914 @ Sep 30 2004, 03:01 PM)
One has to figure in what the impact to their insurance is.

If traffic school is offered, doesn't that mean it doesn't go on your insurance/driving record?

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post Sep 30 2004, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 30 2004, 03:05 PM)
how exactly does a "improper turn" look like ?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)  Andy

Think back to what you did yesterday... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)

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post Sep 30 2004, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Jenny @ Sep 30 2004, 02:10 PM)
If traffic school is offered, doesn't that mean it doesn't go on your insurance/driving record?

Jen

Yep.
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post Sep 30 2004, 04:15 PM
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LOL,,, wow,,, talk about culture shock.. I wondered into Utah from New York via my older brother. He worked for AA airlines and got transfered to Salt Lake City, this was in 1976. He came to me and asked to me help him move out to Salt Lake then I was flying back to NY. Well at that time I had never been out west before and I never heard of a Mormon, had no idea what the hell that was. So I agreed to help him move. I stayed with him for about a month then I landed a job oil and gas exploration. I got a job working on a heliportable drill crew as a drill helper. Amazing job it was,, working in the rocky mtns. working with helicopters everyday, every day at work was an adventure. Well long story short, I became a crew mgr. running a 10 drill heliportable drill crew and Salt Lake was central to the areas that I did most of my work in. Granted I lived in Salt Lake but never spent much time there until I got out of the seismic world. Meet a girl fell in love, married, kids, still in Salt Lake. My wife is from Kansas non mormon.

I can assure you one thing. When my wife gets ready to give up her job. We're outta here. Not going to bury my bones behind the zion curtain.

These people live in a bubble here. Hell theres a big stink going on right now in Utah county about Michael Moore coming to one of the schools there to speak.




Ultra Conservative Republican State here.


Man that ticket I got today got me on a roll and venting....LOL
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post Sep 30 2004, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Jenny @ Sep 30 2004, 02:10 PM)
QUOTE(scruz914 @ Sep 30 2004, 03:01 PM)
One has to figure in what the impact to their insurance is.

If traffic school is offered, doesn't that mean it doesn't go on your insurance/driving record?

Jen

I'm not sure. Been a long time since I received a ticket (and I hope to keep it that way). I know that traffic school is not offered as an option everywhere. You would also have to evaluate the trade off of the time in traffic school vs. going to court. Worked out for Andrew based on his previous post. I too have heard of a cop not showing up and the ticket being reversed.

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post Sep 30 2004, 04:22 PM
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I was at a store (one of the ones with everything, flooring, electronics, furniture, appliances, etc...)shopping for some wood flooring with a friend of mine. She grew up there but had moved away 10 years ago and moved back the week before. It's amazing how poorly the Mormons treat women. 90% of the men we ran into wouldn't talk to her - even though it was her money and she was the one buying. I was just along for the ride. I had heard the stories, but was amazed at the chaevenism (sp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) )
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post Sep 30 2004, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(StratPlayer @ Sep 30 2004, 02:15 PM)
Well at that time I had never been out west before and I never heard of a Mormon, had no idea what the hell that was.


My wife is from Kansas non mormon.

I heard that Salt Lake City is the original MoTown.

And I think you and your wife are considered NoMos.
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post Sep 30 2004, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(scruz914 @ Sep 30 2004, 02:19 PM)
QUOTE(Jenny @ Sep 30 2004, 02:10 PM)
QUOTE(scruz914 @ Sep 30 2004, 03:01 PM)
One has to figure in what the impact to their insurance is.

If traffic school is offered, doesn't that mean it doesn't go on your insurance/driving record?

Jen

I'm not sure. Been a long time since I received a ticket (and I hope to keep it that way). I know that traffic school is not offered as an option everywhere. You would also have to evaluate the trade off of the time in traffic school vs. going to court. Worked out for Andrew based on his previous post. I too have heard of a cop not showing up and the ticket being reversed.

-Jeff

Yes. If you are guilty, you can go to traffic school so it doesn't go on your record. But there is a limit to how often you can do that. Since I was not guilty I fought the ticket. I think I have gotten only three tickets in 23 years of driving, two legitimate ones, so I have been lucky because it is not like I don't speed or anything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



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post Sep 30 2004, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(seanery @ Sep 30 2004, 02:22 PM)
It's amazing how poorly the Mormons treat women. 90% of the men we ran into wouldn't talk to her - even though it was her money and she was the one buying. I was just along for the ride. I had heard the stories, but was amazed at the chaevenism (sp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) )

I hope you'll realize that it's a far stretch to say that Mormons don't respect women because your friend got poor service in a Home Depot. I hope you'll have the opportunity to get to know members of the LDS faith yourself so you can make your own judgement. Most aren't bad at all. In fact, a few even drive 914's (including at least one turbo) and have the utmost respect for women. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Last ticket I got was $250. I used to drive with a lead foot. Did this for years until my luck ran out. Now I try to drive close to the speed limit.

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post Sep 30 2004, 11:30 PM
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What I think is funny is when someone makes an improper turn and doesn't even know WTF he did...no offence ...but you did it, now you best figure out WTF you did so you don't do it again. cops have more important things to do then teach us how to drive correctly. I don't beleive for a single second that you where targeted because you drive a 30+ year old sports car.....trust me you FU now be a man and deal with it.....

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I've lived in Utah and I'm ready to move also. I think you got the ticket cause its close to the end of the month and its quota time Strat.

And in the 10 years I've lived here, I've not seen the Chauvanism so reputed from mormans towards women. I think its a myth. Also I've only seen 1 polygamist in person, and even then, I'm not sure, I just got a wierdo vibe from the guy and his wife, and her "sister"

What does show though is the place feels like its a million miles from the rest of America. And its not a single factor. Certainly Utah has some fucked up liquor laws, but some do other states. Certainly its got a tyrany of religion, but you get that anywhere you have a large body of alike thinking people, Like certain areas in the south that have a large baptist populations.

Perhaps the best way to put it, is Most utahans are not bothered by the Patriot act, because they were living under it for years before 9/11...

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