DTM for a 914, Speak up if you want it developed!! |
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DTM for a 914, Speak up if you want it developed!! |
Jake Raby |
Oct 18 2004, 11:33 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Okay guys... Give me some input here..
I am looking into making a completely new DTM system for a 914 application. It will utilize the stock oil cooler in the stock position and will fi with a modified rain tray (that would come with the kit).......... The basic shroud will stay the same and will keep in emphesis even running temps between the left and right bank cylinders and will do so about 25% better than the stock arrangement while looking alot neater and dropping 30-40 pounds of weigh off the engine and adding a ton of simplicity It will come complete with all necessary tinware to seal the ebngine bay, and etc. It will only work with individual runners carbs/fi. I am working on an FI plenum for all my DTMS as we speak and that will be available in 2005. So, who wants one or is even remotely interested? If I don't get 15 dedicated souls I'm not doing the development as its just not worth it to spend dozens of hours making the molds. Cost would be around 700.00 for the complete kit. SPEAK UP!!!!!!! |
bernbomb914 |
Oct 18 2004, 11:36 PM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
I AM SPEAKING UP FOR THE 4TH TIME I WANT THE FIRST ONE
Bernie |
Jake Raby |
Oct 18 2004, 11:38 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Get your friends to speak up too... I can't do it for just one or two sales! This is TONS of work!
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Elliot_Cannon |
Oct 18 2004, 11:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,922 Joined: 26-March 03 From: Orange County Ca Member No.: 480 Region Association: None |
I might like a new DTM system. What's a DTM sytem?
Cheers, Elliot |
Jake Raby |
Oct 18 2004, 11:39 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
www.massivetype4.com
Its a cooling system that I build from scratch that kicks ass! |
Elliot_Cannon |
Oct 18 2004, 11:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,922 Joined: 26-March 03 From: Orange County Ca Member No.: 480 Region Association: None |
We talking about the verticle fan shroud thing? Kinda sorta like a 911?
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bernbomb914 |
Oct 18 2004, 11:44 PM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
with this system you can kiss your overheating blues goodby. just think no more dropped valve seats. you wont need external oil coolers, Its cheap at half the price
Bernie |
Jake Raby |
Oct 18 2004, 11:47 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Nope, kinda sorta like a 356 or beetle. It uses a Type I fan..
Look at the pics, they are self explanatory, click on the main pic for a gallery |
MattR |
Oct 19 2004, 12:01 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
Jake, Im seriously thinking of investing in one. Ive seen the results on all the non-914 engines and Im impressed.
I have a few questions that would help though. First, What modifications above the ~700 dollar kit would be required? Can I do this with the engine installed? Or does it have to be out of the car? Thirdly, when would they be available? |
Jake Raby |
Oct 19 2004, 12:04 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
available in February or so... (since I have a HUGE project going on that has to be done by Jan 1:-)
The kit would be all thats necessary, no hidden costs. The engine would needn to be pulled, it would be faster and easier out of thecar.. |
MattR |
Oct 19 2004, 12:09 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
Does this kit replace all the shroud? Or would I still need to keep some of the stock tin?
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Jake Raby |
Oct 19 2004, 12:12 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
No stock tin is retained..... NONE< ZERO< ZILCH!
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MattR |
Oct 19 2004, 12:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
Is it worth it with a 2056?
And how do you keep the hot air away from the carbs? |
bernbomb914 |
Oct 19 2004, 12:16 AM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
How much more for carbon fiber?
Bernie |
Korijo |
Oct 19 2004, 12:19 AM
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[]D o [] o []V[] o []D Group: Members Posts: 1,308 Joined: 16-July 03 From: North Bend, WA Member No.: 914 |
I am interested!
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Jake Raby |
Oct 19 2004, 12:21 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
No matter how big the engine is it can benefit from more even running temps across all 4 cylinders.
Carbon Fiber is 650.00 upgrade! Not cheap but it only weighs less than 1 pound:-) |
MattR |
Oct 19 2004, 12:29 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
The stock (700 dollar kit) is fiberglass, correct? Are there big weight differences between the two? Have you weighed them? Im just curious.
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Jake Raby |
Oct 19 2004, 12:30 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
The stock kit is fiberglass... The C/F shroud is 6 pounds lighter than fiberglass....
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bernbomb914 |
Oct 19 2004, 12:31 AM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
will you be using the stock cooler or a new one that fit into the shroud like you described on your forum?
Bernie |
Jake Raby |
Oct 19 2004, 12:36 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Two different versions will be available.
One will use the stock cooler in the stock location in my newest design and another will use an aftermarket cooler placed in the engine surroud tins for better cooling. |
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