Are 914's really this "twitchy" in the rain?, Video of a rally 914-6 |
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Are 914's really this "twitchy" in the rain?, Video of a rally 914-6 |
billh1963 |
Jul 30 2012, 11:07 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
Having never really driven a 914 in the wet, I have no experience to say if a 914 is this loose or not. Anyone have any real world experience in this matter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyxB00hgwV4 |
6freak |
Jul 30 2012, 11:19 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
yes they swap ends very fast .but i think he has a lock n diff in the car...which makes it step out even easier IMO.If i had half a brian i would post some AX runs i did in the rain with Kumho 710`s on the car ...GoPro vids ....Ill try again
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ChrisFoley |
Jul 30 2012, 11:24 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,934 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
I didn't think it looked loose. In one scene the car understeered through a chicane.
With 250hp on tap its pretty easy to get the rear to come around anytime you want. |
billh1963 |
Jul 30 2012, 11:28 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
In the video the driver talks about the car having poor handling in the wet. I know that mid engine cars will transition very quickly; however, I thought that the handling in the rain would be comparable to a normal rear wheel driver car or even better due to the weight distribution.
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ripper911 |
Jul 30 2012, 11:35 AM
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corde pulsum tangite Group: Members Posts: 2,920 Joined: 25-April 10 From: Powder Springs, GA Member No.: 11,654 Region Association: South East States |
I drive my car in the rain, certainly more stable than an old beetle.
However, for driving on ice the rear engine weight bias certainly helps. Go do some donuts in a field in a 914, they spin like a top, very controllable. |
zymurgist |
Jul 30 2012, 11:57 AM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
I know of at least one member who went off the road in a /6 conversion in wet weather.
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ChrisFoley |
Jul 30 2012, 12:24 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,934 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
914s handle great in the rain, with the right setup and a good driver!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuNJ5nEqxHU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77oRaG_PoSg |
SLITS |
Jul 30 2012, 12:26 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
I know of one member that flat spun in the middle of the road after passing thru water in a 4 cyl ... all
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Porschef |
Jul 30 2012, 12:31 PM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
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damesandhotrods |
Jul 30 2012, 12:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 568 Joined: 26-September 10 From: Santa Cruz California Member No.: 12,218 Region Association: Northern California |
They did mention very quickly in the beginning that it was a rally car. Perhaps the difference in chassis set up is the cause?
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SUNAB914 |
Jul 30 2012, 12:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 698 Joined: 29-December 08 From: Fredericksburg VA Member No.: 9,880 Region Association: South East States |
yep, very prone to hydro planning! Always slow down in the rain.
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balljoint |
Jul 30 2012, 02:03 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,000 Joined: 6-April 04 Member No.: 1,897 Region Association: None |
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gms |
Jul 30 2012, 02:40 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,695 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I enjoy racing in the rain, you have to concentrate 10x as much as in the dry.
When the back goes out it goes quick so you must respond. I try to stay up a gear with low RPMs to minimize the car's power/torque. As you can see in my video other cars handle even worst. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca1Qudywa8o |
billh1963 |
Jul 30 2012, 05:42 PM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
The videos are great!
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gms |
Jul 30 2012, 05:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,695 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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stuttgart46 |
Jul 30 2012, 06:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Santa Monica, CA Member No.: 8,474 Region Association: None |
I'm willing to bet that car is still on full or a relatively full stiff set up. If he disconnected the rear sway and loosened the front the car would handle much better.
Fun to watch though. |
ConeDodger |
Jul 30 2012, 06:38 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,612 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I don't drive mine in the rain but it is set up with a precise corner-balance and it wants to turn. If you don't pay strict attention you are one lane over with some pissed off cars around you!
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John |
Jul 30 2012, 07:27 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
The real keys are proper setup (already mentioned) and proper driving skills (also already mentioned). I learned to drive 914's in the snow and used mine as a daily driver for many years. We no longer drive the track car in the rain (no lights and no wipers), but we did so from 25 years ago until about 10 years ago (when the wipers got removed). It really teaches smoothness. The same handling characteristics are there but at a much reduced speed.
Try it and you will learn to be a better driver. |
Jgilliam914 |
Jul 30 2012, 07:37 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,327 Joined: 30-July 12 From: Iowa / Florida Member No.: 14,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have logged many miles in the rain and major snowstorms. I felt if you knew your cars limits it was very easy to control. But just like any car you push it beyond your tires limits you can easily have a tiger on your hands
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ChrisFoley |
Jul 30 2012, 08:00 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,934 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
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