 Painting body on rotisserie, body shop is telling me not to paint the rollbar |
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| Type 47 |
 Feb 6 2013, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 791 Joined: 1-June 10 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 11,790 Region Association: None 
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I told them it should be painted like it was dipped in a vat of paint...they said if I want the vinyl back on the sail panels they want to put sealer on them b/c the paint will peel off from the vinyl glue.
I thought the whole think got painted...am I wrong? |
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| Mike Bellis |
Feb 6 2013, 08:14 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,347 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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To get the vinyl to stick to the paint you may have to scuff it up to make a "key" to bond. Big deal... Paint it. You can take some 500 grit to it later if you want the sail vinyl.
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| scotty b |
Feb 6 2013, 08:17 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
B.S. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Paint it then once the paint has setup, sand it lightly with 220 grit. Glue the vinyl on. Never had a problem
Ask your painter to explain to you, why the gluie will peel the clear off but not the primer ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) |
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| McMark |
Feb 6 2013, 08:42 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,180 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Yup. BS. And would make me wonder if this guy knows what he's talking about with anything.
Technically, the cars that came with vinyl didn't get painted across the targa bar. But he doesn't know that unless he's a hardcore 914 guy. |
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| Type 47 |
Feb 6 2013, 09:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 791 Joined: 1-June 10 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 11,790 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 6 2013, 06:42 PM)  Yup. BS. And would make me wonder if this guy knows what he's talking about with anything. Technically, the cars that came with vinyl didn't get painted across the targa bar. But he doesn't know that unless he's a hardcore 914 guy. No he's a hard core muscle car guy...he's used to full roof vinyl tops. |
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| scotty b |
Feb 6 2013, 09:40 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Type 47 @ Feb 6 2013, 07:36 PM) QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 6 2013, 06:42 PM) Yup. BS. And would make me wonder if this guy knows what he's talking about with anything. Technically, the cars that came with vinyl didn't get painted across the targa bar. But he doesn't know that unless he's a hardcore 914 guy. No he's a hard core muscle car guy...he's used to full roof vinyl tops. I can get you a pic of a Chevelle I looked at today that HAD a vinyl top on it ? Not much left once the top was pulled off. There was only primer under it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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| rick 918-S |
Feb 6 2013, 09:56 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 21,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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I call (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) Todays urethanes are tough as nails. That would occasionally happen with lacquer and un-catalyzed enamel. But back in the day there were heavy solvents in the adhesives. Oh, and Vinyl top adhesive is very hot, solvent rich. The stuff you get at the auto parts store and Menards can't hold a candle to that stuff.
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| Tom_T |
Feb 7 2013, 03:45 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 6 2013, 06:42 PM) Technically, the cars that came with vinyl didn't get painted across the targa bar. But he doesn't know that unless he's a hardcore 914 guy. Nope... Mine was/is painted L80E under the vinyl Mark....from the factory! Later repaints are not under the vinyl (sahara biege, gold, copper, anthracite metallics) done by me & OO/PO. I think they were all painted all over, then picked from the line to add the vinyl - including the few early 73's with A-pillar vinyl AFAIK. |
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| SirAndy |
Feb 7 2013, 04:58 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,257 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Feb 7 2013, 01:45 PM) QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 6 2013, 06:42 PM) Technically, the cars that came with vinyl didn't get painted across the targa bar. But he doesn't know that unless he's a hardcore 914 guy. Nope...Mine was/is painted L80E under the vinyl Mark....from the factory! Later repaints are not under the vinyl (sahara biege, gold, copper, anthracite metallics) done by me & OO/PO. I think they were all painted all over, then picked from the line to add the vinyl - including the few early 73's with A-pillar vinyl AFAIK. Nope ... I have seen many, many 914s that only had gray/white primer under the targa bar vinyl. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| MDG |
Feb 7 2013, 05:01 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,653 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 6 2013, 09:42 PM) Technically, the cars that came with vinyl didn't get painted across the targa bar. But he doesn't know that unless he's a hardcore 914 guy. Yep . . . Across the top of the targa bar of my 73 was essentially primer; the Phoenix Red that was there was basically overspray from when they did the underside of the bar and the insides of the sail panels. As I say - the outsides of the sails and the top of the bar - where all the vinyl went - were mostly primer with some L32K dusted on. |
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| islabob |
Feb 7 2013, 05:43 PM
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islabob Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Merritt Island,Fl Member No.: 3,780 Region Association: South East States |
At Chrysler"s Newark Assembly a paint department clerk won a suggestion award by suggesting not painting the roofs of cars that were going to have a vinyl roof, probably late sixties.
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| scotty b |
Feb 7 2013, 05:55 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 7 2013, 02:58 PM) QUOTE(Tom_T @ Feb 7 2013, 01:45 PM) QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 6 2013, 06:42 PM) Technically, the cars that came with vinyl didn't get painted across the targa bar. But he doesn't know that unless he's a hardcore 914 guy. Nope...Mine was/is painted L80E under the vinyl Mark....from the factory! Later repaints are not under the vinyl (sahara biege, gold, copper, anthracite metallics) done by me & OO/PO. I think they were all painted all over, then picked from the line to add the vinyl - including the few early 73's with A-pillar vinyl AFAIK. Nope ... I have seen many, many 914s that only had gray/white primer under the targa bar vinyl. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Most if not all I have pulled off were "body in white" underneath the vinyl |
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