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> Stranded by a wheel lock - can anyone identify these?, Got Them Off!!! Thanks Cap'n!!
Scott S
post Mar 24 2013, 06:34 PM
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Hi All -
I came out to find a flat this afternoon. No worries, grabbed a floor jack and planned to take it in for repair. I pulled all of the lugs and the wheel would not budge - I thought it was frozen to the rotor hub. Spun the wheel around and found this lock very well hidden under what looked like a stock lug!

I found that there is another on the other front wheel as well. I bought the car in December and I have no key - and per the pics, they both look to have different index pins.

Can someone tell me what brand these are? I am dead in the water until I can find a key (keys?).

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Usually I would just bang a socket on a lock, but there is no way to do that with these. I am really bummed.

Any help is GREATLY appreciated!!!!!
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JawjaPorsche
post Mar 24 2013, 06:40 PM
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Is there anyway you can fix the flat with a Fix A Flat can, then drive your teener to a tire store because I am sure they can help you get it off without damaging your wheel.
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post Mar 24 2013, 06:46 PM
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wheel stores have some keys but most cut it off or drive on a socket and charge up to $100 per wheel. With this one recessed in the wheel???????? wow.

Try a big pbblaster soak front and rear and get the biggest pin spanner you can find and see if it fits.

Call the previous owner??
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post Mar 24 2013, 06:56 PM
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Weld something onto it that you can grip, like a nut, etc.
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post Mar 24 2013, 07:00 PM
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Over torque all the other nuts, then hit it with a chisel,, overtorue the others in theory releases some tension on the lock..also hit hit straight on with flat nose puch will also release some torque tension..Do It
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post Mar 24 2013, 07:03 PM
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I wonder how tight it is... maybe a pin spanner?
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post Mar 24 2013, 07:03 PM
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A big pair of snap-ring pliers? Or needle-nose pliers to fit the holes?

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post Mar 24 2013, 07:12 PM
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If you use the Fix A Flat, remove the tire and clean all that crap out ASAP. It is not meant for long term use. It WILL eat at the wheel
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post Mar 24 2013, 07:13 PM
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Check under spare tire, glove box, under the seats , and door pocket. It's gotta be somewhere hidden in the car.
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post Mar 24 2013, 07:18 PM
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Those are of a type seen in the P-car biz in the 70s and 80s. They use a 2 part key with hardened steel pins. The 2 part key was an attempt to fix the weaknesses on the earlier one part key. Wasn't all that much better ........ They are notoriously failure prone. You're gonna have to use a hole saw to remove it. Get one that just fits over the stud and VERY CAREFULLY cut through the lock. If you're lucky, you won't scar the wheel. Take your time. Once the bulk of the lock is cut away, the remaining sleeve should come out relatively easily. Pin wrenches, pliers, and punches are NOT in the picture, so don't waste your time. I've probably come across this 5 or 6 times, and buggering up the lock isn't gonna make the job any easier; on the contrary, it will probably make removal more difficult.

Good luck!

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post Mar 24 2013, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Mar 24 2013, 06:00 PM) *

Over torque all the other nuts, then hit it with a chisel,, overtorue the others in theory releases some tension on the lock..also hit hit straight on with flat nose puch will also release some torque tension..Do It

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post Mar 24 2013, 07:33 PM
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Pointed Drift and a BFH and hit it counter clockwise.
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post Mar 24 2013, 08:44 PM
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I think I have a new set of those in the bag. Ill have to find them but I remember them being that weird 2 part design. I should beable to find them.
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post Mar 24 2013, 08:52 PM
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Looks like I have the Key you need, but I'm a long way away - let me know if you want me to send it to you

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T.C.- Nice find. I hope he gets those off w/o damaging his wheels. I hate wheel locks ad alarms.
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post Mar 24 2013, 10:12 PM
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TC! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

You have PM!!

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post Mar 24 2013, 10:15 PM
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crap I used to have a set of those on an 83 SC

I don't have the key anylonger sorry.
cold chisel maybe
or take the time to borrow a key like you are doing.
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Actually TC, it looks like yours is a little tighter in the 3 pin arrangement than what the OP shows. I have what looks like the same one as yours, although I'm missing one bottom pin. When I bought my 930 i found 4 lug nuts and the key in the glovebox, took off the wheel locks that moment. I never liked the idea of the locks for this very reason.

I would try posting on the bird 911 site, somebody has to have the same pattern you have.

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post Mar 24 2013, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(Scott S @ Mar 25 2013, 12:12 AM) *

TC! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

You have PM!!

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QUOTE(infraredcalvin @ Mar 25 2013, 12:20 AM) *

Actually TC, it looks like yours is a little tighter in the 3 pin arrangement than what the OP shows. I have what looks like the same one as yours, although I'm missing one bottom pin. When I bought my 930 i found 4 lug nuts and the key in the glovebox, took off the wheel locks that moment. I never liked the idea of the locks for this very reason.

I would try posting on the bird 911 site, somebody has to have the same pattern you have.

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Scott, I answered your PM, but I see what Calvin is saying. So I'm not sure my Key will work.

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QUOTE(infraredcalvin @ Mar 25 2013, 12:20 AM) *

Actually TC, it looks like yours is a little tighter in the 3 pin arrangement than what the OP shows. I have what looks like the same one as yours, although I'm missing one bottom pin. When I bought my 930 i found 4 lug nuts and the key in the glovebox, took off the wheel locks that moment. I never liked the idea of the locks for this very reason.

I would try posting on the bird 911 site, somebody has to have the same pattern you have.

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Yeah, there might be a bunch of combinations of the Pins as on mine on the 3 Pin set, mine has one that is offset a little & on the 2 Pin mine look closer together.

I have n idea who made these, this Key has been sitting in my Toolbox for many years. I know I never used it
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