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| stateofidleness |
 Mar 27 2013, 12:20 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 810 Joined: 1-September 07 From: Canyon Lake, Texas! Member No.: 8,065 Region Association: None  |
Gents,
Starting to get to the rust repair stages and getting more "intimate" with the engine compartment and removal of fuel line stuff. I took a lot of pictures and have some questions you experienced guys may be able to help me with. 1) I noticed this "bracket" thing that the clutch cable runs through at the firewall. it does NOT appear to be stock as it looks like a washer welded to a piece of metal bent to the correct contour. It's then screwed in to through the floor. What the hell is this? Should I remove it or leave it alone?  2) Pulled the tank and was REALLY happy with how clean it was underneath. Noticed these markings on the tank and was just curious is a) these are factory markings and b) if not factory, does it mean my tank is not original to the car? My car is a '73 and the marking says '72.  3) Anyone know a part number for the black part in this picture, or know where to order a replacement? I've never seen one before.. ever! It was on top of the gas tank and the metal straps went through it. I imagine someone broke it while strapping the tank in at some point.  4) Last question (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) Does this fuel pump bracket look "right"? It's tucked up under the hell hole side engine shelf right next to the factory fuel filter mount. Something just doesn't look right to me with it like it was added by a PO or something. How hard is it to relocate the pump to the front? Any benefit in doing this or leave it where it is?  |
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| Shindog1961 |
Mar 27 2013, 12:43 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 196 Joined: 10-November 12 From: Santa Fe New Mexico Member No.: 15,133 Region Association: Southwest Region |
the broken black piece is called a bridge. The part number is 914 201 305 10. Fuel pump bracket is added. I had to change mine after it corroded so badly I could barely get it off. Lot s of people move the fuel pump to under the gas tank, to prevent the vapor lock 914's are prone to. Hope this is helpful.
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| dlee6204 |
Mar 27 2013, 04:45 AM
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Howdy Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 30-April 06 From: Burnsville, NC Member No.: 5,956 |
1) Thats a poor repair of a clutch tube failure. It's fairly common but it should be addressed correctly. Lots of info on this site about the fix.
2) I don't think those markings are factory specially since Porsche isn't spelled right. It's probably a replacement tank that was swapped out. 3) I should have a spare black part that you can have for shipping. 4) non stock mount. I'm guessing due to rust? The rubber isolators should simply bolt to the underside of the engine shelf. |
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| BritCarJim |
Mar 27 2013, 07:47 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 22-January 12 From: Sevierville, TN Member No.: 14,043 Region Association: South East States |
The later cars...like my '75...have the fuel pump factory mounted up front...you could research the placement location and bracket and convert to that setup. It would be an upgrade.
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| injunmort |
Mar 27 2013, 07:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
my 72 had the same clutch tube repair only the washer was just notched not welded on. it worked okay, but the car is now having its rust issues dealt with and that will be repaired properly.
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| Jeff Hail |
Mar 27 2013, 06:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,141 Joined: 3-May 07 From: LA/ CA Member No.: 7,712 |
QUOTE(stateofidleness @ Mar 26 2013, 10:20 PM)  Gents, Starting to get to the rust repair stages and getting more "intimate" with the engine compartment and removal of fuel line stuff. I took a lot of pictures and have some questions you experienced guys may be able to help me with. 1) I noticed this "bracket" thing that the clutch cable runs through at the firewall. it does NOT appear to be stock as it looks like a washer welded to a piece of metal bent to the correct contour. It's then screwed in to through the floor. What the hell is this? Should I remove it or leave it alone? 2) Pulled the tank and was REALLY happy with how clean it was underneath. Noticed these markings on the tank and was just curious is a) these are factory markings and b) if not factory, does it mean my tank is not original to the car? My car is a '73 and the marking says '72. 3) Anyone know a part number for the black part in this picture, or know where to order a replacement? I've never seen one before.. ever! It was on top of the gas tank and the metal straps went through it. I imagine someone broke it while strapping the tank in at some point. 4) Last question (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) Does this fuel pump bracket look "right"? It's tucked up under the hell hole side engine shelf right next to the factory fuel filter mount. Something just doesn't look right to me with it like it was added by a PO or something. How hard is it to relocate the pump to the front? Any benefit in doing this or leave it where it is? What is that... half a gate hinge used to brace the clutch tube? Lets see... so far we have seen bed frame rail, plumbers tape, shelving angle iron, scrap metal, washers, stacks of washers, I saw a quarter with a hole drilled in it and brazed on, JB weld that broke, a piece of a hole saw blade tacked in over the clutch tube etc, etc. Don't feel down. We have seen creative inovation attempts at its best and worst. Its a pretty regular thing around here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Mar 27 2013, 06:28 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,524 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None 
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Is this area a hole into the topside of the engine tin? It should be solid sheet metal here. It should look like the bottom photo.
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| scotty b |
Mar 27 2013, 06:29 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Typical junk yard markings on the gas tank.
No that hole should not be there. |
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| ThePaintedMan |
Mar 27 2013, 06:31 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(Jeff Hail @ Mar 27 2013, 08:19 PM) What is that... half a gate hinge used to brace the clutch tube? Lets see... so far we have seen bed frame rail, plumbers tape, shelving angle iron, scrap metal, washers, stacks of washers, I saw a quarter with a hole drilled in it and brazed on, JB weld that broke, a piece of a hole saw blade tacked in over the clutch tube etc, etc. Don't feel down. We have seen creative inovation attempts at its best and worst. Its a pretty regular thing around here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) I still wonder why 914s and VWs get butchered so bad with makeshift parts. But I assume its because most stuff isn't available at the FLAPS, so previous owners become rednecks whether they actually are or aren't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| jdlmodelt |
Mar 27 2013, 08:48 PM
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James D. Lane Group: Members Posts: 345 Joined: 30-November 12 From: Colorado Member No.: 15,210 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Mar 27 2013, 06:28 PM) Is this area a hole into the topside of the engine tin? It should be solid sheet metal here. It should look like the bottom photo. That's a hole into another dimension! haha! |
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| stateofidleness |
Mar 27 2013, 11:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 810 Joined: 1-September 07 From: Canyon Lake, Texas! Member No.: 8,065 Region Association: None |
Yeppers.. it's a big one! the top of the long is solid, but that "vertical" piece from the top of the long to the engine shelf is pretty much gone..
 Jeff, do you have that picture in a higher res (larger version)? Would love to save it as a reference pic. |
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| rick 918-S |
Mar 28 2013, 07:41 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,473 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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Page 3 of this post shows a removal of a hack repair and fix of a clutch tube on Sandy's Ravenna car.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...04128&st=40 |
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| OU8AVW |
Mar 28 2013, 09:59 AM
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Yacht Rigger Group: Members Posts: 1,803 Joined: 1-October 08 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 9,601 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Mar 28 2013, 05:41 AM) Page 3 of this post shows a removal of a hack repair and fix of a clutch tube on Sandy's Ravenna car. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...04128&st=40 That's a nice thread but no overly helpful to those of us with larger holes in the clutch tube area. Mine's much worse off and fixed with a large plate screwed to the bulkhead. Just so happens I was messing with this yesterday as I tried to install a set of SS fuel lines from Tangerine. |
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| OU8AVW |
Mar 28 2013, 10:08 AM
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Yacht Rigger Group: Members Posts: 1,803 Joined: 1-October 08 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 9,601 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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