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Removing CV joints, What tool is needed |
John1180 |
Apr 17 2013, 11:49 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 27-February 13 From: Seattle Member No.: 15,590 Region Association: None |
Need to pull CV half shafts, what size cap head Allen do I need?
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r3dplanet |
Apr 18 2013, 01:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 679 Joined: 3-September 05 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 4,741 Region Association: None |
It's not an Allen bolt, it's an 8mm "triple square" twelve point socket. That is, unless someone along the way replaced the correct bolts with standard Allen bolts. That would not be fun to extract if they stripped. Hence, twelve points.
You can buy one from Pelican here: http://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/PEL-...2%20in.%20drive But you also get them from NAPA or a local Beetle shop. quote name='John1180' date='Apr 17 2013, 10:49 PM' post='1851659'] Need to pull CV half shafts, what size cap head Allen do I need? [/quote] |
stugray |
Apr 18 2013, 08:07 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
I have even found the correct tool at Autozone, but it is hard to find.
Stu |
John1180 |
Apr 18 2013, 08:27 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 27-February 13 From: Seattle Member No.: 15,590 Region Association: None |
Thanks, I have one of those. Just wanted to make sure I had the right tool before I got to it!
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Cheapsnake |
Apr 19 2013, 06:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 15-November 07 From: Door County, WI Member No.: 8,341 |
Damn! That's why none of my allen wrenches don't fit!
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rgalla9146 |
Apr 19 2013, 07:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,563 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Damn! That's why none of my allen wrenches don't fit! The right tool to turn the fasteners is only the first part. Then comes a big f%#&!N hammer and a cold steel chisel to seperate the joint from the flange. And that's just the inside joints. The outside ones are real fun. |
Katmanken |
Apr 19 2013, 09:10 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
That's half the battle. The tranny CV's disconnect easily but the ones at the wheels can be real buggers. Still haven't got my CV's to disconnect from the stub axles. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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stugray |
Apr 19 2013, 09:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
The axle comes out in one piece from the hub relatively easy as long as it hasnt been on there its whole life.
Stu |
Cap'n Krusty |
Apr 19 2013, 11:32 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
[quote name='r3dplanet' date='Apr 18 2013, 12:13 AM' post='1851662']
It's not an Allen bolt, it's an 8mm "triple square" twelve point socket. That is, unless someone along the way replaced the correct bolts with standard Allen bolts. That would not be fun to extract if they stripped. Hence, twelve points. You can buy one from Pelican here: http://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/PEL-...2%20in.%20drive But you also get them from NAPA or a local Beetle shop. quote name='John1180' date='Apr 17 2013, 10:49 PM' post='1851659'] Need to pull CV half shafts, what size cap head Allen do I need? [/quote] [/quote] You're only partly correct. Early cars had 6mm Allen head bolts, later cars used the 8mm triple square design. Less chance of stripping, able to take a little more torque without chingering up both the bolt and the tool. Personally, I prefer the triple square variety, but the Allen head bolts are fine. Both require cleaning the head before attempting to remove the bolt. One advantage of the Allen head is you can hammer a triple square tool into a stripped bolt to remove it. Can't do that with the triple square bolt. The Cap'n |
914_teener |
Apr 20 2013, 12:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,204 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
So no hijack...
I have to replace both swing arm bushings and ...."while I'm there" I should grease and check the CV's since I need to crack the two half shafts completely off both the trans and the swing arm. 1. Take off the trans side and just break of the stub axle once its off the car? I've never taken them off the car before so unknown torque and rust. What is the easiest way? |
GeorgeRud |
Apr 20 2013, 04:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'd brake loose the large nut holding the stub axle before removing anything. It does take a fair amount of torque, and you won't have as good leverage once it's off the car. Just don't roll the car around after removing the half shaft.
Definitely repack the CVs while it's apart. |
rjames |
Apr 20 2013, 07:58 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,948 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Inspect your cvs good and be prepared to replace them.
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r_towle |
Apr 21 2013, 03:47 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
One advantage of the Allen head is you can hammer a triple square tool into a stripped bolt to remove it. Can't do that with the triple square bolt. The Cap'n Thus, why god invented vice grips. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
speed metal army |
Apr 21 2013, 09:41 PM
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Waiting for the rain to stop... Group: Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 4-September 10 From: PNW Member No.: 12,137 Region Association: Canada |
I had a heck of a time getting the wheel side of my cv's to pop off the hub.A pair of big vise grips on the axle about 1.5" away from the trailing arm,a big pry bar inbetween the visegrips and trailing arm,a little prying...and Voila!
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John1180 |
Apr 22 2013, 12:07 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 27-February 13 From: Seattle Member No.: 15,590 Region Association: None |
Got the cv joints off, bolts were mixed hex and twelve points! It did take a bit of persuasion to break them loose after all the bolts were out. Thanks for the tips.
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