Replacing Ignition Switch - Requests or Comments, I'm getting ready to replace the ignition switch in my '74. If anyone has questions or comments... feel free |
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Replacing Ignition Switch - Requests or Comments, I'm getting ready to replace the ignition switch in my '74. If anyone has questions or comments... feel free |
GunWilli |
Jul 28 2013, 02:44 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 9-July 13 From: North Carolina Member No.: 16,107 Region Association: South East States |
New to online forums and 914's...
I'm about to replace the ignition switch in my 1974 1.8L. I've done a little bit of reading online and I think I'm ready to dig in. If anyone wants pictures of something specific or has comments about what I'm doing, please leave a reply. Right now: - Starter tested okay - Safety belt system jumped - How to instructable from Pelican Parts - Switch on order from AutoAtlanta I think I'll get everything taken apart while I wait on parts. I'm also thinking about having new keys made... that's another topic. Take Care... |
type2man |
Jul 28 2013, 03:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 3-March 09 From: Miami, Fl Member No.: 10,127 Region Association: South East States |
I had a problem with my 914 not starting every now and then. It turned out the be the actual cylinder and not the electrical part in the back. The piece on the switch that goes into the electrical part wore out on mine and wouldn't turn the switch far enough to start.
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Kirmizi |
Jul 28 2013, 06:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
I had a problem with my 914 not starting every now and then. It turned out the be the actual cylinder and not the electrical part in the back. The piece on the switch that goes into the electrical part wore out on mine and wouldn't turn the switch far enough to start. This can also happen with some of the "cheap" replacement switches, since they don't fit as snug in the steering column as the originals. |
jimkelly |
Jul 28 2013, 07:03 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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tomeric914 |
Jul 29 2013, 07:49 AM
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One Lap of America in a 914! Group: Members Posts: 1,259 Joined: 25-May 08 From: Syracuse, NY Member No.: 9,101 Region Association: North East States |
The same switch can be had for about $6 from a VW. No need to go to AA.
This can also happen with some of the "cheap" replacement switches, since they don't fit as snug in the steering column as the originals. I stopped in to AA a few years ago while in Atlanta on business. Their suggestion was to use a piece of paper to shim the ignition switch. It worked... for about a week. They sold me the same $6 Chinese switch for $30. I thought I was going to get an original switch for that price. Turns out I got the bait and switch. I had a problem with my 914 not starting every now and then. It turned out the be the actual cylinder and not the electrical part in the back. The piece on the switch that goes into the electrical part wore out on mine and wouldn't turn the switch far enough to start. I went with a good used VW cylinder and switch off eBay. Has worked ever since (knock on wood). |
Dave_Darling |
Jul 29 2013, 08:22 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
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GunWilli |
Aug 12 2013, 09:20 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 9-July 13 From: North Carolina Member No.: 16,107 Region Association: South East States |
- How to instructable from Pelican Parts - Switch on order from AutoAtlanta Just curious, but why the instructions from Pelican and the switch from AA? (I do have a vested interest...) --DD Sorry for the delay. I don't have my email notification set up correctly. To answer your question. Parts: AutoAtlanta has schematics with links directly to the parts, and it seems like they can supply just about anything anything. For example I couldn't readily find a turn signal switch at Pelican. Instructions: Pelican's instructions came up top hit on google search. I hope this helps... |
GunWilli |
Aug 12 2013, 09:23 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 9-July 13 From: North Carolina Member No.: 16,107 Region Association: South East States |
I think I figured it out....
Corroded wires to the large relay under the passenger seat. (pictured) I stripped them back, twisted together and she fired right up. I will do some more testing and then make the repair permanent. |
chads74 |
Oct 3 2013, 08:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 13-March 12 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 14,252 Region Association: South East States |
I am having problems with my car not starting lately. I have been scratching my head and can't figure out what the deal is. So the relay under the seat... did that seam to fix your starting issues? Or did you replace the ignition switch also? Any help would be much appreciated!
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jimkelly |
Oct 3 2013, 08:38 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
wouldn't the test for consistent power at the ignition lead to the starter be to see if it has 12v with every key-in-ignition turn? if not, then there possibly a switch problem?
I would say, to test alone, put a buzzer or light on the ignition lead to starter, to see. I need to test mine btw. jim |
chads74 |
Oct 7 2013, 04:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 13-March 12 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 14,252 Region Association: South East States |
I think I figured it out.... Corroded wires to the large relay under the passenger seat. (pictured) I stripped them back, twisted together and she fired right up. I will do some more testing and then make the repair permanent. Do you have a pic of where the wires connect at the relay? I think one of mine pulled from the relay. This is what I have.... |
Jeffs9146 |
Oct 7 2013, 06:11 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
Just eliminate that rats nest of wires by removing the relay and connecting the two Yellow wires together!
That will eliminate the no start relay from engaging and the seatbelt warning buzzer! |
timothy_nd28 |
Oct 7 2013, 06:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,299 Joined: 25-September 07 From: IN Member No.: 8,154 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Just eliminate that rats nest of wires by removing the relay and connecting the two Yellow wires together! That will eliminate the no start relay from engaging and the seatbelt warning buzzer! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You stated that you defeated the seat belt interlock circuit, but the picture tells a different story |
chads74 |
Oct 7 2013, 06:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 13-March 12 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 14,252 Region Association: South East States |
Just to make sure I understand... Splice the two large yellow wires together, and I can cap the remaining wires.
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Jeffs9146 |
Oct 7 2013, 07:00 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
Just eliminate that rats nest of wires by removing the relay and connecting the two Yellow wires together! That will eliminate the no start relay from engaging and the seatbelt warning buzzer! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You stated that you defeated the seat belt interlock circuit, but the picture tells a different story Those are not my photos! |
Jeffs9146 |
Oct 7 2013, 07:04 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
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timothy_nd28 |
Oct 7 2013, 07:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,299 Joined: 25-September 07 From: IN Member No.: 8,154 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Just eliminate that rats nest of wires by removing the relay and connecting the two Yellow wires together! That will eliminate the no start relay from engaging and the seatbelt warning buzzer! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You stated that you defeated the seat belt interlock circuit, but the picture tells a different story Those are not my photos! My bad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
JRust |
Oct 7 2013, 08:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,307 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I ordered 2 ignition switches from Pelican last week. Ordered sunday & received wendnesday http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopca...h_pg1.htm#item3
$8 bucks & yeah it's the VW switch. I ordered 2 since they were cheap. I have always gotten my orders from Pelican in 3-4 days. I cannot say the same for AA Oh yeah you don't need to take the lower dash off. You can get to those plugs just fine without pulling it. |
chads74 |
Oct 8 2013, 06:17 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 13-March 12 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 14,252 Region Association: South East States |
I ordered 2 ignition switches from Pelican last week. Ordered sunday & received wendnesday http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopca...h_pg1.htm#item3 $8 bucks & yeah it's the VW switch. I ordered 2 since they were cheap. I have always gotten my orders from Pelican in 3-4 days. I cannot say the same for AA Oh yeah you don't need to take the lower dash off. You can get to those plugs just fine without pulling it. Good to know! I ordered the switch from pelican late last week, so I am hoping I can get it soon. |
chads74 |
Oct 9 2013, 07:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 13-March 12 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 14,252 Region Association: South East States |
Did I receive the wrong switch?
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