How do I realign distributor drive gear to reclock dist., Unilight Fit issues |
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How do I realign distributor drive gear to reclock dist., Unilight Fit issues |
wndsnd |
Oct 27 2013, 09:47 AM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
How do I do this, and if I do, won't the timing marks on the flywheel be off?
Thanks John |
McMark |
Oct 27 2013, 10:19 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Check out this thread . Timing marks are in reference to piston vs cam orientation. The marks indicate piston top dead center. The ignition timing is referenced from that TDC mark. If reorient the drive and distributor, you change the physical orientation but not necessarily the rotational orientation.
So turn the engine until the rotor is pointing at the spark plug wire for #1, pull the distributor, reclock the drive anywhere you want (think about this ahead of time), reinstall the distributor, loosen the adjustment nut and turn the distributor until the rotor once again lines up with the #1 spark plug wire. Rotor location/aiming vs crank rotation hasn't changed. |
wndsnd |
Oct 27 2013, 10:47 AM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks Mark
Very clear now |
messix |
Oct 27 2013, 02:48 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Check out this thread . Timing marks are in reference to piston vs cam orientation. The marks indicate piston top dead center. The ignition timing is referenced from that TDC mark. If reorient the drive and distributor, you change the physical orientation but not necessarily the rotational orientation. So turn the engine until the rotor is pointing at the spark plug wire for #1, pull the distributor, reclock the drive anywhere you want (think about this ahead of time), reinstall the distributor, loosen the adjustment nut and turn the distributor until the rotor once again lines up with the #1 spark plug wire. Rotor location/aiming vs crank rotation hasn't changed. not so easy! the dizzy keys into the drive pinion only one way! some one else here should know how to pull out the drive pinion and re-index it. mc mark!!! |
wndsnd |
Oct 27 2013, 03:39 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
I am not going to do it.
I can't get the electronics to work at all, while the old stuff just runs. Between the Unilite, 6AL, Modules, and Special Coil, and two days of wasted time, I'm done for now. I don't like the fit, I don't like the clips, I don't like the wires, and I don't like the money I spent on all this stuff just for frustration. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) Moving on to something more productive. |
McMark |
Oct 27 2013, 07:55 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Troy, what are you talking about? That's what I was talking about when I said:
QUOTE reclock the drive anywhere you want (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
messix |
Oct 27 2013, 10:43 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Troy, what are you talking about? That's what I was talking about when I said: QUOTE reclock the drive anywhere you want (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) and.... how do you get the drive up enough to reclock it with out loosing the shims on the bottom of the gear???? |
McMark |
Oct 27 2013, 10:44 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Read the link. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And I've never once had a washer fall off. Not even a close call.
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messix |
Oct 27 2013, 11:01 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) I didn't read the link...... I (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) sorry
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JoeSharp |
Oct 28 2013, 01:01 AM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
I have the tool needed to pull the driveshaft for the dizzy. Before I bought the tool I would use two screw flat drivers to pull the shaft out. Not easy as using the tool but I got it done several times.
Tony, the tool is cheap compaired to the frustration you are going through. Locate the dizzy where you are comfee with. It doesn't care, it only cares that you align it with number 1 when number 1 is at TDC. You can see that through the rocker arms positions (showing you that the valve is closed) and the timing mark. Remember that the drive shaft rotates about 15 degrees counter clock wise when it slides back in. I also use a small dab of grese on the shim to make sure it stays where it belongs. Don't forget the spring, ask me how I know. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Oct 28 2013, 06:05 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,301 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Read the link. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And I've never once had a washer fall off. Not even a close call. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) never had one come off. Strong extendable magnet works just fine to remove it. When reinstalling, rocking the car for and aft In 5th will help it mesh. |
rhodyguy |
Oct 28 2013, 06:48 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,089 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
fitment, you have to 'dimple' the pass side upper engine tin. hassle if the tin has been powder coated. a piece of some type of hardwood and a bfh is the fix. i'm confused that you feel you may have to re-clock the drive.
bummer about the dough and disappointment. maybe walk away from the 'new' ignition setup for awhile and tackle it later. |
Java2570 |
Oct 28 2013, 02:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 649 Joined: 7-May 11 From: Fishers, IN Member No.: 13,035 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
When I did mine, I used the end of a Bic pen shoved down into the spring hole! It worked great, it was
exactly the right size and I just happened to have it in my tool bag. |
wndsnd |
Oct 28 2013, 02:31 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
fitment, you have to 'dimple' the pass side upper engine tin. hassle if the tin has been powder coated. a piece of some type of hardwood and a bfh is the fix. i'm confused that you feel you may have to re-clock the drive. bummer about the dough and disappointment. maybe walk away from the 'new' ignition setup for awhile and tackle it later. I knowyou are right Kevin, I have the wiring sorted out, and probably the CD and dist. I suspect I fried the coil. When I get back this week I will try with a Bosch Blue. |
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