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1jwalters
post Nov 16 2013, 08:09 AM
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My latest project. Recently I designed a new generation wind turbine. I am going to miniaturize my design and work it into the front trunk area of a teener.

My goal is to drive coast to coast non-stop........

Ambitious? Yes!
Doable? Yes!

I will accept any help thrown my way!

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By the way, it is great to be back here, I missed this place!
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rick 918-S
post Nov 16 2013, 08:13 AM
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post Nov 16 2013, 03:15 PM
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post Nov 16 2013, 04:08 PM
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TNSTAAFL.

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Interesting. Word of caution: do NOT use Electro Automotive - you will lose your money. Lots of people already have lost their money, don't be another.

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post Nov 16 2013, 06:00 PM
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Kind of cool but kind of like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spam.gif)

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I'm taking donations to build a 12 cylinder 914. Any takers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif)
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post Nov 16 2013, 07:11 PM
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Perpetual motion ?
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Let us know how those pesky laws of thermodynamics treat you...
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post Nov 17 2013, 01:07 AM
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If it works, how long before the oil companies make you an offer you can't refuse? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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If it works, how long before the oil companies make you an offer you can't refuse? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)


watch out...may end up like Rudolf Diesel...
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post Nov 17 2013, 06:25 AM
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Hey jeff and rick and everybody else! yep ir has been awhile. i have been traveling all over the planet for the last few years.

where is dr evil? aaron cox still around? Scotty b?

i must apologoze as i am on the road doing a tour of local machine shops and corporate machine shops promoting my wind engine. sending this from my smart phone.

be back home on mo.day.chat with all you guys more then!
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post Nov 17 2013, 06:55 AM
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Man this brings me back..... When I was young and ambitious and considered myself inventive, I came up with a plan similar to this. A perpetually powered electric car. The problem was the need and ability to reliably generate and store more power than you are consuming. Given the needs for accelleration, grade increases, accessory/load demands, I figured that if you allowed for a 25% overhead (100KW generate, 75W motor) and had enough capacity you would be fine, but the math (according to my electrical engineer uncle).

The plan was to generate power two ways, 1 was regenerative through a wheel driven generator, second was solar power cells. The theory/idea was sound, the math diddnt hold up. Something about entropy, etc and that the ratio of consumption to generation wasnt right. I thought a 2-3 speed transmission to step up the ration on the generator would address this, but there was little available to make that happen.

So, I decided to scrap the design and went instead for a system with: solar panels (roof & hood), a wheel generator (front wheels) and a small onboard gasoline powered generator (engine compartment) all 3 would dump power into the batteries, solar when the sun was out and independedent of all movement, the wheel generator when moving, and the gas generator for when demand outpaced the ability to generate or the battery levels dropped below 40%. I still liked the idea of a 2 speed transmission to double the speed of the generator relative to speed, the theory being generating twice the power and outpace consumption. This system worked out great on paper and the math worked too. The only problem was I was 13-14 years old and had no access to do anything other than old lawnmower parts, scavanged junkyard parts, and a 1960 VW beetle shell. But this was the 70's, I was 14 and of little means, so I just sent the idea to the General.... Along with my driverless highway idea.

Of course real cars, motorcycles, girls, sports, college, family, Army all got in the way, and I gave up being an inventor, just inovating and improving what I have.

I dont have any idea of the other project you did, but I'm intrigued! Will be watching this thread!

Steve
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post Nov 17 2013, 07:21 AM
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I'm taking donations to build a 12 cylinder 914. Any takers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif)



Don't be so flippant about a 914-12. All you need is a VW W-12 motor. It is actually shorter than a 911 engine, and will bolt up to a Boxster transmission with no conversion parts.


(Yes, I have considered it.....)
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post Nov 17 2013, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Nov 16 2013, 06:00 PM) *

Kind of cool but kind of like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spam.gif)

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I'm taking donations to build a 12 cylinder 914. Any takers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif)



Don't be so flippant about a 914-12. All you need is a VW W-12 motor. It is actually shorter than a 911 engine, and will bolt up to a Boxster transmission with no conversion parts.


(Yes, I have considered it.....)


Lot of work to get 270hp ?
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post Nov 17 2013, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(1jwalters @ Nov 17 2013, 04:25 AM) *

Hey jeff and rick and everybody else! yep ir has been awhile. i have been traveling all over the planet for the last few years.

where is dr evil? aaron cox still around? Scotty b?

i must apologoze as i am on the road doing a tour of local machine shops and corporate machine shops promoting my wind engine. sending this from my smart phone.

be back home on mo.day.chat with all you guys more then!

Aaron quit, Evil is busy with his new high falootin 911 owning doctor friends, and they kicked me out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Nov 17 2013, 08:34 AM
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You're building one of these?


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post Nov 17 2013, 09:22 AM
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post Nov 17 2013, 10:48 AM
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http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/self-sus...c-car/x/5342378


My latest project. Recently I designed a new generation wind turbine. I am going to miniaturize my design and work it into the front trunk area of a teener.

My goal is to drive coast to coast non-stop........

Ambitious? Yes!
Doable? Yes!

I will accept any help thrown my way!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)

By the way, it is great to be back here, I missed this place!


Feom your video, it seems the widn turbine is spinning with no load. next step, connect a generator to your turbine powerful enough to run your box fan, then get it started with house current, then switch over to generator power and see how long it will run.
BTW, look at this link from sailing anarchy.
http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php...han+the+wind%22
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post Nov 17 2013, 10:55 AM
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post Nov 17 2013, 11:09 AM
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If you pitched this on Shark Tank they would rip you to pieces. You are asking for money before demonstrating anything based on reality. A little premature, don't you think? How much power it can generate? Spinning it with a fan doesn't prove anything. What was the point of that?

Hook it to a generator and show us the numbers, along with accurate numbers regarding how much is needed to power a car across the country.

Attach your prototype directly to a prop on a boat and show us how fast you can go (since this is an application you suggested). Try a go kart prototype before asking for $100,000 to go straight to a car.

Fool or scam artist?
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