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last337
post Dec 2 2013, 05:35 PM
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Okay, well after a day thinking about my day at the track yesterday I am quite curious what it would cost to get someone else to fix the hell-hole. I honestly dont even know anyone close to New Orleans that would work on this thing. Anyone got any ideas of a reputable shop in my vicinity and what I should expect to pay.

I have access to my own shop and a couple really good welder buddies but I am just intimidated by the project. Some of the repairs I have seen here are so extensive
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SirAndy
post Dec 2 2013, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(last337 @ Dec 2 2013, 03:35 PM) *
Some of the repairs I have seen here are so extensive

How bad is it? Show us some pics ...
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post Dec 2 2013, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 2 2013, 05:42 PM) *

QUOTE(last337 @ Dec 2 2013, 03:35 PM) *
Some of the repairs I have seen here are so extensive

How bad is it? Show us some pics ...
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I would love to do this myself if possible but I have just never done any kind of metal work. I only have a few pics at the moment and it is hard for me to tell what would be involved in fixing it but Im sure you guys can tell a lot more. What other pics would be helpful? I can take off the rocker panels but I just dont want to lose the drywall screws holding them in hahah; previous owners do weird things (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Dec 2 2013, 05:55 PM
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post Dec 2 2013, 07:18 PM
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You pull the engine and interior. Budget $ 6k but who knows until you pull the engine and interior
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post Dec 2 2013, 08:02 PM
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From those pics I'd guess there's some more hidden nastiness lurking.
Disassemble to obtain better access, then start poking questionable areas.
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post Dec 2 2013, 08:28 PM
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don't be fully invested in restoring this particular car until you know the FULL extent of the rust. based in these pics, you are looking at a big bill and that is before bondo and paint.

some potential areas of rust...


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post Dec 2 2013, 09:11 PM
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based in these pics, you are looking at a big bill and that is before bondo and paint.

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That looks like you have some substantial rust in the longs. That's the backbone of your car.

Not good ...
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post Dec 2 2013, 09:40 PM
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So are you guys saying that this is beyond repair or just beyond being worth repairing? If I dont repair it then what else do I do with it? Is there are market for one like this?
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post Dec 2 2013, 09:46 PM
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that looks more extensive than just the hell hole.
show us a picture of the longitudinal please

I'd be aprehensive of tracking this car until its repaired.
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post Dec 2 2013, 09:49 PM
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So are you guys saying that this is beyond repair or just beyond being worth repairing? If I dont repair it then what else do I do with it? Is there are market for one like this?

No, it's not beyond repair, but it doesn't look like a quick fix. You'll have to invest some time and money to fix this right.

This thread will give you a good idea of what is involved in fixing this:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=16748
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In the meantime, please don't take it back to the track.
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post Dec 2 2013, 09:53 PM
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Maybe I should just be looking at getting something else instead. I know now that I overpaid for this one but is there anyway I can sell this one?
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post Dec 2 2013, 09:53 PM
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I've purchased two rust free rollers from out west. I have less in the pair (before building the cars of course) that that rust repair will cost you.

My advise unless there is some attachment is to buy a roller with less rust and transfer the parts.
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post Dec 2 2013, 10:04 PM
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What would a rust free roller cost me? Or rather, what should it cost me?
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post Dec 2 2013, 11:03 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with the advice of keeping it off the track. I know you mentioned you had a blast last weekend, but please don't risk it. That's pretty bad.

Have you considered trying the repair yourself? Plenty of threads here to explain the process, you'll get better at welding as you go, and Restoration Design has just about every piece of metal you'll need.

The quick and (easier) way of going about it is getting a shell from out west. Mikey914 just got rid of a fairly nice car not too long ago unfortunately, if I remember. Post a WTB ad here and have some of our west coast bretheren do some searching for you. Expect to spend 2-3k on the shell, depending on it's condition. Then another 500-1k shipping it to you. At least I think those numbers are what I've heard before.
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post Dec 2 2013, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(last337 @ Dec 2 2013, 08:04 PM) *

What would a rust free roller cost me? Or rather, what should it cost me?

$2k +/-
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post Dec 3 2013, 12:28 AM
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A really nice car was in the classifieds for weeks. Just sold over the holiday weekend. Fresh paint and lost of parts.

Watch the classifieds everyday.

I'm not saying your car is un-repairable. I'm just saying if you have the option and no one you trust is close enough to do the repairs there are still nice shells or half done cars for sale. That may be a better choice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Dec 3 2013, 05:57 AM
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in the aviation business, they have a term, BER, beyond economical repair.

any 914 generally has quite a few sellable parts.

nice/decent tubs come along from time to time for between $1-2k.

most cars need more than just rust repair, bondo and paint.

most need suspension $2k, brakes $1k, fuel $300, engine $?, work as well.

a 914 owner really needs to set a realistic budget based in facts and real costs.

anyway - current list is here...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...;hl=rust+repair
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post Dec 3 2013, 08:58 AM
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Thanks for all the replies. I unfortunately dont really have the money to put into another tub at the moment but the one thing I do have is lots of free time. So basically I have decided on a two-pronged approach. I will continue to watch the classifieds for a good deal on a tub, but at the same time I will dive into the mess that I have now as well. I imagine any tub I would get would eventually need a paint job so that is pretty much a sunk cost no matter which way I go. However, if I can get this repair done with what I have for the cost of some parts and my time (and some beer bribes for some welding) I can get it done for way less. Plus, I am sure I will learn a lot more not just about 914s but just body work in general. Thanks for the kick in the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) to get me to try! I will update pics as I start getting into it. I am sure mine isnt the worst one anyone has tried to repair
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post Dec 3 2013, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(last337 @ Dec 3 2013, 09:58 AM) *

Thanks for all the replies. I unfortunately dont really have the money to put into another tub at the moment but the one thing I do have is lots of free time. So basically I have decided on a two-pronged approach. I will continue to watch the classifieds for a good deal on a tub, but at the same time I will dive into the mess that I have now as well. I imagine any tub I would get would eventually need a paint job so that is pretty much a sunk cost no matter which way I go. However, if I can get this repair done with what I have for the cost of some parts and my time (and some beer bribes for some welding) I can get it done for way less. Plus, I am sure I will learn a lot more not just about 914s but just body work in general. Thanks for the kick in the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) to get me to try! I will update pics as I start getting into it. I am sure mine isnt the worst one anyone has tried to repair



dont feel bad, I am in the same boat, mine is in worse shape, i think everyone will agree.

The one thing i have going for me is that the PO reinforced the longs with 1/4" steel on the inside and outside. Mine wont be show quality but I can jump up and down on the drivers seat and open and close the doors at the same time, lol. I need to pull the engine and work on the metal below the battery tray. I have a VW beetle that I am parting out so guess where my metal is coming from, lol. It wont be sexy on the bottom but it will be all there and solid

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