Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Photograph request-Sideshift transmission detail, of installed clutch cable pulley w/cable attacthed
HalfMoon
post Dec 11 2013, 06:23 PM
Post #1


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 828
Joined: 13-November 12
From: Shenandoah Junction, WV
Member No.: 15,144
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
My PO had a thing rigged up and I want to see the correct installation/gear as I'm finishing the installation of my Dr Evil sorted transmission.
Thanks!
David
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
 Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies(1 - 19)
Phoenix-MN
post Dec 11 2013, 06:41 PM
Post #2


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 927
Joined: 23-January 04
From: ST. Bonifacius,MN
Member No.: 1,590
QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Dec 11 2013, 04:23 PM) *

My PO had a thing rigged up and I want to see the correct installation/gear as I'm finishing the installation of my Dr Evil sorted transmission.
Thanks!
David


Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
wndsnd
post Dec 11 2013, 07:09 PM
Post #3


You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat....
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,861
Joined: 12-February 12
From: North Shore, MA
Member No.: 14,124
Region Association: North East States
QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Dec 11 2013, 07:41 PM) *

QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Dec 11 2013, 04:23 PM) *

My PO had a thing rigged up and I want to see the correct installation/gear as I'm finishing the installation of my Dr Evil sorted transmission.
Thanks!
David


Attached Image



This is not assembled right.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
HalfMoon
post Dec 11 2013, 07:41 PM
Post #4


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 828
Joined: 13-November 12
From: Shenandoah Junction, WV
Member No.: 15,144
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
QUOTE(wndsnd @ Dec 11 2013, 08:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Dec 11 2013, 07:41 PM) *

QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Dec 11 2013, 04:23 PM) *

My PO had a thing rigged up and I want to see the correct installation/gear as I'm finishing the installation of my Dr Evil sorted transmission.
Thanks!
David


Attached Image



This is not assembled right.


No it doesn't look like it is does it? I think the boot is on the wrong side correct?
That said, the part I'm trying to determine is missing on my housing is the piece that the cable end is fitting into. Looks like some kind of "keeper"?
Anyone else got any pictures? A side view would be good :-)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
David_S
post Dec 11 2013, 07:54 PM
Post #5


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 430
Joined: 11-May 03
From: Dimmitt, Tx
Member No.: 680
Region Association: Southwest Region
I thought that the boot went onto the firewall ???
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
wndsnd
post Dec 11 2013, 07:58 PM
Post #6


You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat....
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,861
Joined: 12-February 12
From: North Shore, MA
Member No.: 14,124
Region Association: North East States
I am sorry I do not have photo shop so I can put the arrows and notes on but the boot is on the wrong side and it looks like the clip is also. The parts diagrams don't show the assembly but the retainer/washer clip actually fits onto the notch on the housing. Someone will post a pic because it is easy to photo. My car isn't here or I would do it for you.

John
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Old Yella
post Dec 11 2013, 09:09 PM
Post #7


Old Yella
**

Group: Members
Posts: 158
Joined: 2-July 13
From: Canberra Australia
Member No.: 16,086
Region Association: Southwest Region
QUOTE(wndsnd @ Dec 11 2013, 05:58 PM) *

I am sorry I do not have photo shop so I can put the arrows and notes on but the boot is on the wrong side and it looks like the clip is also. The parts diagrams don't show the assembly but the retainer/washer clip actually fits onto the notch on the housing. Someone will post a pic because it is easy to photo. My car isn't here or I would do it for you.

John


I think I have seen a photo in the Haynes manual showing the dust boot in the position it is located in the photo. I know this because my new cable didn't come with it. Nor did the dust boots come with the new hand brake cables I ordered which is really aggravating and typical of Porsche parts. You never get what you need every little bid is and additional part number and , naturally, additional cost. I'll try and find a photo to post.
TR
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Old Yella
post Dec 11 2013, 09:24 PM
Post #8


Old Yella
**

Group: Members
Posts: 158
Joined: 2-July 13
From: Canberra Australia
Member No.: 16,086
Region Association: Southwest Region
Here is another post on this forum, please refer to the photos.

http://ftp.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=221402
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
wndsnd
post Dec 11 2013, 09:47 PM
Post #9


You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat....
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,861
Joined: 12-February 12
From: North Shore, MA
Member No.: 14,124
Region Association: North East States
I'd believe that boot goes at the firewall before I believe it should go inside the bracket.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
HalfMoon
post Dec 11 2013, 10:41 PM
Post #10


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 828
Joined: 13-November 12
From: Shenandoah Junction, WV
Member No.: 15,144
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
Hmm...so after examining another thread photograph, (which looks correct), I'm seeing what looks like some kind of keeper (see red arrow) for the cable where it goes through the housing and then on to roll around the plastic pulley.
I'm not seeing that at Auto Atlanta's Schematic diagram for parts
http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-parts/h...rts§ion=702-00
(not that I would purchase from them mind you). Anyone got a handle on what this part is and or where it could be obtained (new from a vendor)?
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
HalfMoon
post Dec 11 2013, 10:54 PM
Post #11


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 828
Joined: 13-November 12
From: Shenandoah Junction, WV
Member No.: 15,144
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
Hmmm....perhaps it's part number 53 on the diagram? Tab washer but when you click on it it's called a cable stop plate.
http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-parts/h...rts§ion=702-00
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
HalfMoon
post Dec 11 2013, 11:07 PM
Post #12


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 828
Joined: 13-November 12
From: Shenandoah Junction, WV
Member No.: 15,144
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
Here's a better photograph at Pelican but as you can see it doesn't look like the keeper that's in the previously posted picture.
Hmmm
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/...%2520%2520%2520
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Cupomeat
post Dec 11 2013, 11:23 PM
Post #13


missing my NY 914 in VA
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,336
Joined: 26-November 07
From: Oakton VA
Member No.: 8,376
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
This problem vexed me for MANY years until I finally looked under a VERY low mileage 914 and saw how it was assembled from the factory.

The item, goes as shown and bends around the back and the long tab of it goes into the hole on the back of the housing. It is not easy to do, nor does it seem necessary as I've driven for 26 years without it.

Pelican has a picture of it http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images...cable_parts.JPG
and the part on their catalog is 914-423-283-00-OEM

Good luck!
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Cupomeat
post Dec 11 2013, 11:26 PM
Post #14


missing my NY 914 in VA
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,336
Joined: 26-November 07
From: Oakton VA
Member No.: 8,376
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Dec 11 2013, 11:54 PM) *

Hmmm....perhaps it's part number 53 on the diagram? Tab washer but when you click on it it's called a cable stop plate.
http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-parts/h...rts§ion=702-00


Stranger still it is called the Acc.cable Stop Plate

I guess you can't accelerate very well without a working clutch... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Steve_R
post Dec 12 2013, 12:07 AM
Post #15


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 68
Joined: 8-August 12
From: San Diego, CA
Member No.: 14,777
Region Association: None
Here's a picture of mine.


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Cap'n Krusty
post Dec 12 2013, 12:18 AM
Post #16


Cap'n Krusty
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,794
Joined: 24-June 04
From: Santa Maria, CA
Member No.: 2,246
Region Association: Central California
Well, that's amusing. And creative. And wrong. The tab washer goes on the outside of the carrier, and the tab wraps around the end and comes through the hole from the backside.

The Cap'n
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jcd914
post Dec 12 2013, 12:43 AM
Post #17


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,081
Joined: 7-February 08
From: Sacramento, CA
Member No.: 8,684
Region Association: Northern California
QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Dec 11 2013, 04:41 PM) *

QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Dec 11 2013, 04:23 PM) *

My PO had a thing rigged up and I want to see the correct installation/gear as I'm finishing the installation of my Dr Evil sorted transmission.
Thanks!
David


Attached Image


This shows the correct installation of the cable retainer, the "Tab Washer".
The boot in this picture should be slipped on to the end of the cable housing and away from the roller.

The cable goes thru the eye of the tab washer all the way onto the metal end of the cable housing. Then the metal end of the cable housing slides into the opening in the support bracket. This puts the tab washer between the cable and the support bracket. The tab is then bent around the back of the support bracket and the end is poked out thru the hole in the bracket. This make it so the cable can't slide back out of the support bracket.

Then the boot slides on the cable and all the way up on to the metal end of the cable housing, where it helps keep dirt and grit out of you cable.


QUOTE(Steve_R @ Dec 11 2013, 10:07 PM) *

Here's a picture of mine.


Steve_R, your tab washer is installed incorrectly. It should be on the other side of the support bracket and the tabe should be coming around from behind the bracket and poking out of the whole it is now poking into.


The bottom line is that the tab washers function is to keep the cable from sliding out of the slot in the support bracket and stranding you along the road some where.Some saftey wire could be used, wire ties could be used, an old coat hanger could be used but the tab washer is a nice clean install and what was OE.

Jim
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
wndsnd
post Dec 12 2013, 08:00 AM
Post #18


You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat....
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,861
Joined: 12-February 12
From: North Shore, MA
Member No.: 14,124
Region Association: North East States
QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Dec 11 2013, 11:41 PM) *

Hmm...so after examining another thread photograph, (which looks correct), I'm seeing what looks like some kind of keeper (see red arrow) for the cable where it goes through the housing and then on to roll around the plastic pulley.
I'm not seeing that at Auto Atlanta's Schematic diagram for parts
http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-parts/h...rts§ion=702-00
(not that I would purchase from them mind you). Anyone got a handle on what this part is and or where it could be obtained (new from a vendor)?
Attached Image



I would buy this install, it just seems to mechanically make sense. However the boot confuses me.

If the boot is to keep crap from coming out of the cable into the housing, why leave everything exposed to the elements? OR is the boot is there to keep pully grease out of the cable, The first picture looks like two tab washers were used, one is trying to run into the pulley and jamb.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
HalfMoon
post Dec 12 2013, 09:02 AM
Post #19


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 828
Joined: 13-November 12
From: Shenandoah Junction, WV
Member No.: 15,144
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
Terrific input from all!
I think we can close the thread as it seems the correct install is in the picture.
Pelican part # 914-423-283-00-OEM
Thanks everyone :-)
D
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Cap'n Krusty
post Dec 12 2013, 10:13 AM
Post #20


Cap'n Krusty
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,794
Joined: 24-June 04
From: Santa Maria, CA
Member No.: 2,246
Region Association: Central California
Just one more post to this thread! The tab washer can be obtained from the dealer, just leave the letters off the end of the part number. No shipping, 2-3 day wait, list price unless your dealer offers a PCA discount. The boot is there to keep grit out of the cable housing. Many of us don't grease the outer circumference of the cable pulley for the same reason: grit collects in the grease and causes cable failure.

The Cap'n
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
« Next Oldest · 914World Garage · Next Newest »
 

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Display Mode: Switch to: Standard · Linear+ · Switch to: Outline

Track this topic · Email this topic · Print this topic · Subscribe to this forum

- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 31st May 2024 - 08:18 PM
Invision Power Board v9.1.4 © 2024  IPS, Inc.
All rights reserved 914World.com © since 2002
914World.com is the fastest growing online 914 community!
We have it all, classifieds, events, forums, vendors, parts, autocross, racing, technical articles, events calendar, newsletter, restoration, gallery, archives, history and more for your Porsche 914 ...