Price check on isle 5, 1974 914 2.0 Options

[speeder]

Hi all, new to this community but a longtime Porsche and 914 enthusiast. Maybe I should have posed this question in the marketplace section but I figure that the same people are here, maybe even more of them.

I recently acquired a 1974 914 2.0, factory black with original fuel injection intact. It runs great and has had at least a partial rebuild with Mahle sport pistons, (slightly higher CR), plus a lot of other maintenance. It's set up for track/autocross with racing seats, Konis all around and adjustable sways. It presently has Khumo DOT slicks on factory Fuchs 914 alloys. It's a go-cart. It also has Pagid race pads, a little squeaky on the street. Also a Bursch muffler.

My plan was to return it to 90-95% stock and restore it. It has almost zero rust, including the "hell hole" under battery and other traditional places. The dash is very clean and not cracked but original seats and console are not present. I have a pretty good source for those.

The body is mostly straight but the rear trunk hinge needs repair, (common failure on these cars). The only troubling thing is that the right rear fender appears to be "off" a little, gap between it and trunk seems too large. The car has some additional bracing in rear part of pan, (track mod), and I suspect that removing it might cure the problem but not sure. These are all issues to be addressed during a restoration and I have good body sources.

The car drives great and is a blast. Shifts well with a good transmission.

I may sell it to pursue another Porsche opportunity, what am I sitting on here? In a perfect world, I would never sell it and restore it. They are rare in this configuration, (black/73-74 2.0). I know what perfect '73-'74 2 liters go for but this car is not that. It is a rust-free car to restore or drive as-is, however.

Any educated responses are highly appreciated! Thanks,

Denis

[Mike Bellis]

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$5k-$10k in California

[SirAndy]

1974 914 2.0, factory black

Do you have a COA? Might be a LE bumblebee ...
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[billh1963]

I assume you are asking about this car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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[speeder]

Yes, Bill. One and the same. As my post above states, I really want to keep it but might have to flip it for the greater good, Porsche-wise.

I don't think it was a bumble bee, since it has chrome bumpers. I do not have a COA or kardex for it.

I know that it's worth between $5-10k but that's a wide spread. 10 is 5x2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[speeder]

Also, I did not buy it with the intention of flipping it. Circumstances might dictate it, though. How much the thing is actually worth would help the decision a lot.

It has some extremely positive attributes but realistically needs and deserves to be restored fully. I've done a few things since I bought it and gotten the registration up to date.

[lonewolfe]

Also, I did not buy it with the intention of flipping it. Circumstances might dictate it, though. How much the thing is actually worth would help the decision a lot.

It has some extremely positive attributes but realistically needs and deserves to be restored fully. I've done a few things since I bought it and gotten the registration up to date.

I suggest you post several pictures. It's hard to say without seeing the car.

[boxsterfan]

Pics of the longs, hell hole, floorboards, etc... will help determine value.

[speeder]

OK, I don't have close-ups of the hell hole or longitudinals but base your valuation on it having NO RUST. It truly does not. Also, no evidence of ever having been so much as bumped front or rear. The front trunk floor under spare tire needs to be replaced, but not because of accident or rust. The PO cut two rectangular sections out to vent an auxiliary oil cooler, (another track mod).

Here are a few pics:

OK, scratch that. This site does not automatically re-size photos/files, so I just added them to the Pelican thread. look on the first and last page of this thread:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-d...-914-2-0-a.html

I will take close-ups of the battery hell hole area as well as others for anyone interested in the car. But you can base your valuation estimates on it having no rust, as in none present and none previously repaired. It's why i bought the car. It's not a case of, "the rust isn't 'too bad'..." It's not there.

Thanks.

[budk]

Yes, Bill. One and the same. As my post above states, I really want to keep it but might have to flip it for the greater good, Porsche-wise.

I don't think it was a bumble bee, since it has chrome bumpers. I do not have a COA or kardex for it.

I know that it's worth between $5-10k but that's a wide spread. 10 is 5x2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

LE air dam, grey headlight motors and painted sail panels..... What is the vin ? That will determine if it's in the LE range of #s and whether you should get a COA.

[speeder]

VIN is 4742914751. It does have those plastic rockers that have raised letters "PORSCHE" on them, just assumed they were added by someone.

Were those part of LE package? I was under memory or impression that those had painted bumpers.

[Mike Bellis]

VIN is 4742914751. It does have those plastic rockers that have raised letters "PORSCHE" on them, just assumed they were added by someone.

Were those part of LE package? I was under memory or impression that those had painted bumpers.

Looks like a known VIN but listed as "Insufficient data to include in surviving 914 Can Am car count"

https://bowlsby.net/914/CanAm/

Contact Jeff Bowlsby for more info. A COA would be the defining answer.

[JeffBowlsby]

Its within the LE VIN range, it could be an early 914 LE, but maybe not. Assuming its paint label says L041, they would have had to change the bumpers and wheels and other trim items, but that would not have been uncommon or hard to do. Call 1-800-PORSCHE ext 5 and inquire whether or not it is an LE. It should have the U1V9 paint code and option M778 Can Am Equipment, they can verify it over the phone, if its real, then order their COA. Once an LE always an LE.

[speeder]

Thanks for the info, Jeff. I called Porsche and within 3-5 days, they should get back to me with the equipment info on the car. It seems very likely that it was a LE car, based on the spoiler and lack of appearance group vinyl on the sail panels. Someone must have switched it to chrome bumpers, (or had the originals chromed), and switched to Fuchs rims.

Or could it have been a non-bumblebee with spoiler and painted sail panels? I guess the mystery will be revealed soon. As for being an "early LE", it seems to be a couple hundred cars after yours? Your car must be very early.

[brant]

Is the spoiler aftermarket or of the original style. You can pull it and check.

Say keep he car. Don't flip it
It's modified enough that I would price it at 6500- 7500 if it is as rust free as you say

Has it been re sprayed?

[speeder]

Also, FWIW, I owned this Marathon Blue 2.0 car in 1976 that never existed according to 914 magazine ads I've seen from the time. My car had no appearance group, (painted sail panels and bumpers), with plain steel wheels and hubcaps. But it was definitely a 1973 914 2.0 with center console, gauges, etc.

the ads I've seen all reference the 2.0 cars having appearance group, Fuchs alloys, etc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[brant]

The 73-74 years are not really magical. The early cars have less weight and mid year cars were already pushing 2200lbs

[speeder]

Is the spoiler aftermarket or of the original style. You can pull it and check.

Say keep he car. Don't flip it
It's modified enough that I would price it at 7500 if it is as rust free as you say

I'd love to keep it and restore it but it doesn't fit in with other car plans right now. In a perfect world, I'd have a warehouse full of great cars with a private shop, etc. In the real world, I live in an apartment in Los Angeles and have a couple of rented garages. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Also, oddly enough I have never cared for the LE package look, particularly the "bumblebee" cars. I much prefer chrome bumpers, Fuchs rims and appearance group cars. It should go to a collector who really wants this particular car.

Thanks for the responses.

[speeder]

The 73-74 years are not really magical. The early cars have less weight and mid year cars were already pushing 2200lbs

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I could not disagree more. Have you actually owned the various years in stock form? There were MASSIVE improvements to the 914 in the 1973 MY, (some occurred in '72 MY).

I only go back about 40 years with 914 ownership, maybe you have more experience.

My 1971 914, (before the '73):

[JeffBowlsby]

Thanks for the info, Jeff. I called Porsche and within 3-5 days, they should get back to me with the equipment info on the car. It seems very likely that it was a LE car, based on the spoiler and lack of appearance group vinyl on the sail panels. Someone must have switched it to chrome bumpers, (or had the originals chromed), and switched to Fuchs rims.

Or could it have been a non-bumblebee with spoiler and painted sail panels? I guess the mystery will be revealed soon. As for being an "early LE", it seems to be a couple hundred cars after yours? Your car must be very early.

The spoliers were available separately from the dealer, and its not clear from your photo if this is an original LE spoiler.

My Bumblebee is VIN 14536, so we are a couple hundred apart, but Early-Late - I don't think it makes any difference really. There are only a handful of LE's still surviving, that is the important point.

Interest in your car by a collector will be influenced by its mods. If it is an LE, then to take it back to original configuration by a collector will take some work and influence its present value, but once an LE, always an LE.

Anxious to hear what PCNA says.