71 won't go to 4th or 5th, my is 71 running for the first time, 4th and 5th not there? |
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71 won't go to 4th or 5th, my is 71 running for the first time, 4th and 5th not there? |
CMXIV |
Mar 11 2014, 05:57 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 21-July 12 From: Washington DC Member No.: 14,706 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
so for the first time since i owned this 71 1.7 it is running! On my maiden test voyage 4th and 5th gear were not available. it seems like the shifter is not moving far enough to the right. i took it apart and saw no obstructions. It seemed like the bar in the engine compartment was hitting the headers, and upon inspection the motor mounts looked low to me. i jacked up the engine and tried to tighten the mounts, no luck. (maybe pb blaster will help that). anyway, it still didn't get 4th or 5th with the engine jacked up off the shifter bar. when i took the shift lever out, it seemed like it may be the problem, it only moved a bit before hitting the plate on the underside. any ideas would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance. Lee
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Mblizzard |
Mar 11 2014, 06:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
First PM Dr Evil for his notes on trans mission rebuild. He will provide the best advice.
Did you adjust the shifter inside the tunnel? To me it sounds like you need to make an adjustment of the shifter inside the tunnel. Put it in 2nd gear. Then look at where the shifter sits. If it is not in the position you would think 2nd would be (it is likely to far left). Then lossen the single 13 mm nut on the shift rod in the tunnel and position the shifter to where you think 2nd should be. Verify that you can get third where it should be and then try again. Don't make large scale changes! Also mark your starting points on the rod and shifter with a sharpie so you will have a reference point for how much you have moved the rod. I struggled with this for a long time before I learned to make smaller adjustments. |
injunmort |
Mar 11 2014, 06:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
shifter bushings have packed up
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dw914six |
Mar 11 2014, 06:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 18-January 14 From: Houston Member No.: 16,902 Region Association: Southwest Region |
First PM Dr Evil for his notes on trans mission rebuild. He will provide the best advice. Did you adjust the shifter inside the tunnel? To me it sounds like you need to make an adjustment of the shifter inside the tunnel. Put it in 2nd gear. Then look at where the shifter sits. If it is not in the position you would think 2nd would be (it is likely to far left). Then lossen the single 13 mm nut on the shift rod in the tunnel and position the shifter to where you think 2nd should be. Verify that you can get third where it should be and then try again. Don't make large scale changes! Also mark your starting points on the rod and shifter with a sharpie so you will have a reference point for how much you have moved the rod. I struggled with this for a long time before I learned to make smaller adjustments. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) When you are sick.....go to the Doctor. |
CMXIV |
Mar 11 2014, 06:28 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 21-July 12 From: Washington DC Member No.: 14,706 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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CMXIV |
Mar 11 2014, 06:33 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 21-July 12 From: Washington DC Member No.: 14,706 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
First PM Dr Evil for his notes on trans mission rebuild. He will provide the best advice. Did you adjust the shifter inside the tunnel? To me it sounds like you need to make an adjustment of the shifter inside the tunnel. Put it in 2nd gear. Then look at where the shifter sits. If it is not in the position you would think 2nd would be (it is likely to far left). Then lossen the single 13 mm nut on the shift rod in the tunnel and position the shifter to where you think 2nd should be. Verify that you can get third where it should be and then try again. Don't make large scale changes! Also mark your starting points on the rod and shifter with a sharpie so you will have a reference point for how much you have moved the rod. I struggled with this for a long time before I learned to make smaller adjustments. i did not even know this was an option. i am giddy with the anticipation of this being a pretty easy solution. i certainly don't want to rebuild the tranny if possible. |
914itis |
Mar 11 2014, 06:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
you may need to adjust your shifter.
Start with This link. |
CMXIV |
Mar 11 2014, 08:03 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 21-July 12 From: Washington DC Member No.: 14,706 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
thanks for the link. now, i feel kinda dumb asking this, but where is the adjustment screw? is it the hex screw on the side of the cup that is engaged by the shift lever? or is it by the firewall? |
Bob L. |
Mar 11 2014, 08:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 848 Joined: 7-August 11 From: Austin TX Member No.: 13,411 Region Association: Southwest Region |
thanks for the link. now, i feel kinda dumb asking this, but where is the adjustment screw? is it the hex screw on the side of the cup that is engaged by the shift lever? or is it by the firewall? It is inside. Uncover the hole in the tunnel at the base of the shifter. 13mm bolt. Follow the Dr.s instructions from there. Good luck. |
CMXIV |
Mar 11 2014, 08:36 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 21-July 12 From: Washington DC Member No.: 14,706 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
thanks for the link. now, i feel kinda dumb asking this, but where is the adjustment screw? is it the hex screw on the side of the cup that is engaged by the shift lever? or is it by the firewall? It is inside. Uncover the hole in the tunnel at the base of the shifter. 13mm bolt. Follow the Dr.s instructions from there. Good luck. is this different for tail and side shifters? i have a tail shifter. |
bdstone914 |
Mar 11 2014, 09:02 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,536 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
thanks for the link. now, i feel kinda dumb asking this, but where is the adjustment screw? is it the hex screw on the side of the cup that is engaged by the shift lever? or is it by the firewall? It is inside. Uncover the hole in the tunnel at the base of the shifter. 13mm bolt. Follow the Dr.s instructions from there. Good luck. is this different for tail and side shifters? i have a tail shifter. Yes it is different for tail shifters. The first bushing to go is the one In the cup at the bottom of the shifter. |
CMXIV |
Mar 11 2014, 09:14 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 21-July 12 From: Washington DC Member No.: 14,706 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
thanks for the link. now, i feel kinda dumb asking this, but where is the adjustment screw? is it the hex screw on the side of the cup that is engaged by the shift lever? or is it by the firewall? It is inside. Uncover the hole in the tunnel at the base of the shifter. 13mm bolt. Follow the Dr.s instructions from there. Good luck. is this different for tail and side shifters? i have a tail shifter. Yes it is different for tail shifters. The first bushing to go is the one In the cup at the bottom of the shifter. that bushing seems good. is there a way to adjust the shifter on the tail shift transmission? I am not too excited to be limited to 35 mph. |
914itis |
Mar 11 2014, 09:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
thanks for the link. now, i feel kinda dumb asking this, but where is the adjustment screw? is it the hex screw on the side of the cup that is engaged by the shift lever? or is it by the firewall? It is inside. Uncover the hole in the tunnel at the base of the shifter. 13mm bolt. Follow the Dr.s instructions from there. Good luck. is this different for tail and side shifters? i have a tail shifter. Yes it is different for tail shifters. The first bushing to go is the one In the cup at the bottom of the shifter. that bushing seems good. is there a way to adjust the shifter on the tail shift transmission? I am not too excited to be limited to 35 mph. The adjustment should be the same procedure as side. |
914itis |
Mar 11 2014, 09:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
here is a picture of the shifter. I am not sure where the adjustment link / bolt is as I never adjusted a tail shift. I am sure someone here would help soon.
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Michael RD |
Mar 11 2014, 10:54 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 7-March 13 Member No.: 15,628 Region Association: None |
For tailshift, remove the seatpad and cointray between the seats and remove the coverplate (one sheetmetal screw) - the shift shaft adjustment is just under the cover.
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CMXIV |
Mar 12 2014, 04:27 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 21-July 12 From: Washington DC Member No.: 14,706 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
For tailshift, remove the seatpad and cointray between the seats and remove the coverplate (one sheetmetal screw) - the shift shaft adjustment is just under the cover. thanks. i will check that out and look forward cruising in 5th. everyone on this site seems to be so helpful. i hope i can return the favor to the community. |
injunmort |
Mar 12 2014, 06:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
what it means is, check to see that the bushings have not failed. there is one on the shifter ball, one in the firewall, and two on the ball and cups off the firewall and linkage. when mine failed at the firewall, there was enough slop in the linkage as to make it impossible to find 4th and 5th.
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Dr Evil |
Mar 12 2014, 07:44 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If you want some additional instructions, PM me your email and I will send you my 31 pages of notes that cover all kinds of transmission stuff.
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nicabr |
Mar 12 2014, 08:54 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 8-June 10 From: Sandviken, Sweden Member No.: 11,825 Region Association: Scandinavia |
what it means is, check to see that the bushings have not failed. there is one on the shifter ball, one in the firewall, and two on the ball and cups off the firewall and linkage. when mine failed at the firewall, there was enough slop in the linkage as to make it impossible to find 4th and 5th. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I have the same experience. |
Dave_Darling |
Mar 12 2014, 05:23 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Another possibility--an unpleasant one--is that the clutch tube has come loose inside the center tunnel, and the bottom of the shifter is hitting it before it can move over far enough to select the 4/5 plane.
--DD |
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