Question on 914-6 GT rims sizes, What were the original sizes from the factory on the cars? |
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Question on 914-6 GT rims sizes, What were the original sizes from the factory on the cars? |
nine14cats |
Mar 19 2014, 04:30 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
I'm curious as to what the factory shipped size wise for wheels on 914-6 GT's. I am talking factory flared GT's.
Can anyone help me out? Thanks, Bill P. |
rick 918-S |
Mar 19 2014, 05:01 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,493 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I seem to recall they were 15 x7's but I could be mistaken.
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Vysoc |
Mar 19 2014, 05:13 PM
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Vysoc Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 27-August 09 From: Young Harris, Georgia Member No.: 10,737 Region Association: South East States |
TC has a copy of the factory spec sheet, I think it was 8" x 15" in the Rear and 7" x 15" in the font Fuchs Alloys obviously.
His friend Steve has the Eric Strenger M471 in Tampa which would have the proper sizes which on that one I think they were 7" x 15" on all four corners? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) My 2 cents. Vysoc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
Johny Blackstain |
Mar 19 2014, 05:26 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I seem to remember reading recently that they were 15"x7" all around for most & some (not all) had 15"x8" in the back, but don't hold me to that.
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Eric_Shea |
Mar 19 2014, 07:23 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
15x7 front
15x8 rear M471 cars should have 15x6 all around with spacers (Strenger car) |
nine14cats |
Mar 20 2014, 10:37 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Thanks Guys!
I have 15x7 and 15x8 Fuchs. What is the original tire sizes? Bill P. |
brant |
Mar 20 2014, 10:39 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I've seen 6's
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SirAndy |
Mar 20 2014, 11:11 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Below is the actual factory list of combinations. There are quite a few different combinations that were used.
Yeah, i know it's in German ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Einpresstiefe = Offset (in mm) Felgen = Wheels Reifen = Tires (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
SirAndy |
Mar 20 2014, 11:15 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
So bottom line, they used:
Front / Rear 7"x15 / 7"x15 7"x15 / 8"x15 7"x15 / 9"x15 8"x15 / 8"x15 8"x15 / 9"x15 9"x15 / 11"x15 and had a 35mm spacer in the front on the combinations that used 7" front wheels ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
Dave_Darling |
Mar 20 2014, 03:41 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Andy, where is that info from? Am I wrong to think that there were no 285/40/15 tires (which are called for in the document there) back when the 914 was new?
The GTs were race cars. They probably had a variety of different wheels at different times, dictated mainly by the rule set of whatever race they were running. And the rules could and did change--and one car might run different series with different rules as well. Any particular reason you need to know what was originally used on the (relatively few) Factory-built 914-6GT cars? Are you restoring one? --DD |
nine14cats |
Mar 20 2014, 04:11 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Thanks Andy! That helps a bunch!
Dave, How's it going? Long time no see! I'm thinking of running Leeloo at Parade. I'd like to run her in Improved 2 class. She is really close in configuration but there are a few things such as having to put back in the front headlights and such. Also there are some rules regarding size of rims. I'm trying to understand the backdating/updating rules as the tub is a 1971 and now has metal GT flares and a full interior with bolt in cage. It also has a 7" wide front rims and 8" wide rears, and there are rules pertaining to how much rim you can have and stay in Improved. Oh...and the motor is a nicely built Carrera 3.2 with Steve Wong chip. It's a great motor. I recently sold my Spec Boxster and am getting ready to start on a full blown race car project, so this would be more for street / AX duty. Thanks, Bill P. |
brant |
Mar 20 2014, 04:25 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I don't see how a 3.2 motor in place of a 2.0 motor is improved....
it sounds like a GT class car to me! back in the day when I did club racing - stock was stock - improved was stock with minor wheel upgrades or brake upgrades... but 100% stock displacement - and anything with larger displacement was GT brant |
SirAndy |
Mar 20 2014, 04:33 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Andy, where is that info from? Am I wrong to think that there were no 285/40/15 tires (which are called for in the document there) back when the 914 was new? DGVWPB And yes, there were tires in that size when the 914 was new. In fact, 285/40/15 on 9" wheels and 345/35/15 on 11" wheels was a popular wheel & tire combo on quite a few cars at the time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
johnhora |
Mar 20 2014, 04:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 867 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
agree with Brant....GT class 1-6
the class is determined by a weight/HP performance index the rest of the rules are mainly like your Spec Boxster check out the rules here at PCA Club Racing rules location would be a fun race car...not sure how many are running in these GT classes anymore https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%...le%2520Book.pdf |
nine14cats |
Mar 20 2014, 04:58 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
agree with Brant....GT class 1-6 the class is determined by a weight/HP performance index the rest of the rules are mainly like your Spec Boxster check out the rules here at PCA Club Racing rules location would be a fun race car...not sure how many are running in these GT classes anymore https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%...le%2520Book.pdf I'm currently racing in PCA Club Racing and Nasa with other cars but I'm talking about Parade Autocross for street cars and specifically a 914-6. I don't make the rules, I'm just trying to interpret them. There are no GT classes in PCA Parade rules. Here is the link to Zone 7's AX rules, which are identical to Parade's except for where noted. They now have Showroom Stock, Production, Improved and Modified. Since the car is basically a street car without the headlights, I'm trying to figure out where it fits. Parade / Zone 7 AX Rules Thanks, Bill P. |
Dave_Darling |
Mar 21 2014, 09:07 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Wait, is this the "Chinese menu" points system that they had been using a few years back, or is this yet another complete revision of the class structure??
--DD |
nine14cats |
Mar 21 2014, 09:26 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Wait, is this the "Chinese menu" points system that they had been using a few years back, or is this yet another complete revision of the class structure?? --DD Hi Dave, Loma Prieta Region is running Parade rules for their AX season. Golden Gate Region is running the points system. I'm thinking of running at Parade, so I'm trying to get the car into the Improved 2 class according to Parade AX rules. I need to do a few things, but the car is close. Bill P. |
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