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> Weight of a T-4 Long Block ?
euro911
post Apr 3 2014, 10:39 PM
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I have no way of weighing a T-4 motor for a shipping quote. Does anybody have a pretty good idea what a 2.0L T-4 long block with all the following components mounted:

All the cooling tins
Fan housing with fan,
Alternator & dizzy
Flywheel, clutch and pressure plate assembly

(Yes, it has 1.7L heads, but it's a 2.0L)

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post Apr 3 2014, 10:45 PM
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I use 350lbs for a fully crated motor.
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post Apr 3 2014, 11:05 PM
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I can lift one up and carry it out the door on to a trailer. Even when Mark Henry (or whatever he is calling himself these days) is pretending to lift the other side. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) So they can't be that heavy.
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post Apr 3 2014, 11:57 PM
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Yeah, Dave, but you Canucks weigh everything with some weird foreign metric measurement system, or bushels of beans or something, so it really isn't as heavy as you think it is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)


I estimated 350 with a pallet crate, so I guess I'll continue with that #. Thanks Mark (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Apr 4 2014, 04:42 AM
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200lbs in the condition shown.
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post Apr 4 2014, 05:25 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 4 2014, 12:45 AM) *

I use 350lbs for a fully crated motor.

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post Apr 4 2014, 07:57 AM
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200lbs in the condition shown.


Either I am a lot stronger than I think or 200 is closer to the truth than 350.

My teenage son & I picked one up and put it on the engine stand with barely a grunt.
175 lbs for each of us sounds a little much when bending over and lifting off the ground (I am an old fart with recent dual hernia surgery).
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post Apr 4 2014, 08:29 AM
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200lbs in the condition shown.


Either I am a lot stronger than I think or 200 is closer to the truth than 350.

My teenage son & I picked one up and put it on the engine stand with barely a grunt.
175 lbs for each of us sounds a little much when bending over and lifting off the ground (I am an old fart with recent dual hernia surgery).

well, let us know what a crate weighs.

Having shipped a few, and I suspect Mark has also, its 350 crated.

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post Apr 4 2014, 10:48 AM
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200lbs in the condition shown.


Either I am a lot stronger than I think or 200 is closer to the truth than 350.

My teenage son & I picked one up and put it on the engine stand with barely a grunt.
175 lbs for each of us sounds a little much when bending over and lifting off the ground (I am an old fart with recent dual hernia surgery).

well, let us know what a crate weighs.

Having shipped a few, and I suspect Mark has also, its 350 crated.

rich

200 as shown (that's what he asked). 250 with exhaust. 325 with trans. I don't know how much a crate weighs. Jake Raby would know exact numbers.
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:47 PM
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Depends on how well you build the crate. I use 2x4s and 1/2" plywood. I can stand on the crate after I'm done. I don't want to deal with a busted engine.
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:27 AM
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This will be a substantial crate. Pallet bottom, plywood box on top, probably an easy 40~50 # by itself. I guess I should go buy a good fishing scale to hang from my cherry picker to weigh motors (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Apr 6 2014, 07:33 AM
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Junk yard, scrap yard, stone yard etc. all have truck scales.
Weight empty truck...then weigh truck with motor in the back.
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post Apr 6 2014, 09:27 AM
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The motor sale isn't cast in stone - trying to assist the potential buyer with shipping quotes. I'll look into the places you mentioned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Don't want to build a crate iffin I don't need to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

Thanks ...
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post May 9 2014, 12:03 AM
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Ended up being 250 pounds in the crate (bought a shipping scale)

Thanks for all the input (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post May 9 2014, 05:38 AM
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How much did the crate weigh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post May 9 2014, 08:06 AM
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Ended up being 250 pounds in the crate


So much for believing "facts" posted on the internet :-)
I Knew 350 was unreasonable....
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post May 9 2014, 10:09 AM
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On a skid the engine will weigh in around 360 dressed as shown.
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post May 9 2014, 11:03 AM
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So much for believing "facts" posted on the internet :-)
I Knew 350 was unreasonable....

Stu,

sometimes being argumentative is just not helpful.

How many motors have you shipped?

none of us are guessing...

I have shipped one 356 motor strapped to a pallet, wrapped in plastic wrap.
It had dents and scratches when it arrived in CA.
I will never do that again.

I build a protective box now, that can take a hit from a forklift, and can survive a fall off the back of a truck.
not worth shipping it cheap if you have to deal with the hassle of damage when it arrives.
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post May 9 2014, 11:24 AM
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sometimes being argumentative is just not helpful.

My point is that you cannot believe anything on the internet anymore.

Right above we have someone that says "It weighs 250" that JUST WEIGHED IT.

And then someone else says it weighs 350. Which is it?
I trust the "bought a shipping scale" more than my guess, but my guess was right.

My "gut" (literally) told me it does not weigh 350 because I picked one up and put it on the stand.
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post May 9 2014, 11:44 AM
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sometimes being argumentative is just not helpful.

My point is that you cannot believe anything on the internet anymore.

Right above we have someone that says "It weighs 250" that JUST WEIGHED IT.

And then someone else says it weighs 350. Which is it?
I trust the "bought a shipping scale" more than my guess, but my guess was right.

My "gut" (literally) told me it does not weigh 350 because I picked one up and put it on the stand.

again, on an appropriate shipping crate, 350.
not a guess, been weighed and paid many times.

I think the lowest I got it was 325, fully dressed motor and the thinnest crate I had the courage to build.
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