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Picked up a 912, opinions? |
thomasotten |
Apr 19 2014, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 16-November 03 From: San Antonio, Texas Member No.: 1,349 |
Hello,
I was fortunate to find a 1966 912 for sale and purchased it. No engine, no transmission... no seats! So the car is rough, but restorable. I was wondering what my club's opinions on the car would be. An immediate question I have is on the viability of putting in a type IV engine in the car. It just seems that would be easier to find than an original 912/356 engine. But would that hurt the resale? Just looking over the car, in addition to the above mentioned missing items, I will need new floor pans, dash pad, door panels, gas tank, and and and... Is this a super money pit? What would this car bring restored? (low and high) P.S. The two tone paint is because the owner was trying to learn to paint. Thanks, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_wirdgut.gif) Attached image(s) |
Elliot Cannon |
Apr 19 2014, 09:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
The tires don't look too bad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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PanelBilly |
Apr 19 2014, 09:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,819 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Outlaw car! Do whatever you please. Its not ever going to be original again. Put a suby in it and drive
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2mAn |
Apr 19 2014, 10:07 PM
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trying to see how long I can go without a 914 Group: Members Posts: 487 Joined: 14-November 13 From: Westchester (Los Angeles) Member No.: 16,644 Region Association: Southern California |
since its missing anything that would make its resale high (original parts) I say get wild.
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bdstone914 |
Apr 19 2014, 10:14 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,541 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Putting a type IV engine will be a lot cheaper and easier to find. The sheet metal to sela it may be challenging.
Check out the cars for sale on the 912 Registry. The are going up in value but they value original cars. If it is worth the cost to restore it to your desired level got for it. Bruce |
bdstone914 |
Apr 19 2014, 10:17 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,541 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Putting a type IV engine will be a lot cheaper and easier to find. The sheet metal to seal may be challenging. A type I motor might be easier. Some guys do that to drive them and not where the 912 engine. Check out the cars for sale on the 912 Registry. The are going up in value but they value original cars. If it is worth the cost to restore it to your desired level got for it. Bruce And I have a 1966 rebuilt 5 speed if you decide to go for it. |
RonW |
Apr 19 2014, 10:19 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Alameda, CA Member No.: 5,340 Region Association: Northern California |
Done both the t4 and currently running suby motor/trans. Like what was mentioned earlier, do what makes u happy.
My $0.02 |
ConeDodger |
Apr 19 2014, 11:26 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,619 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Find a 6... 2.0 liter...
Not real sure but those things are worth a fortune these days and you might catch a tail wind... |
r3dplanet |
Apr 19 2014, 11:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 679 Joined: 3-September 05 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 4,741 Region Association: None |
I really, really, really miss my 912. I look around from time to time but they're always crazy expensive. If I found one like the one you found I'd be all over it, too. I'd go with a Type-4 engine for sure.
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GeorgeRud |
Apr 19 2014, 11:38 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'd go for a type 4 as well. They can be quite bulletproof, relatively inexpensive, and you would escape emission requirements with the age of the car.
It would make a nice, fun car when you're finished. Enjoy your project in good health! |
roachghia70 |
Apr 20 2014, 12:00 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 3-June 04 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 2,153 Region Association: Northern California |
Outlaw car! Do whatever you please. Its not ever going to be original again. Put a suby in it and drive Agreed! SUBARU. Ive built a few stroked T4 engines, and a few stroked T1 engines, but after driving cars with stock Subarus swapped in (bugs, 914s, and even a VW Bus) I won't do anything but Subaru. It just doesn't make sense to spend twice as much on a T4 build, just to get half the power, a quarter the reliability, and require 6 times the regular maintenance. Not to mention the oil leaks! It's an outlaw car anyway, so stick a Subaru in there! Just take the time to do it clean, with minimal cutting of the car, and you won't regret it. |
ipadstott |
Apr 20 2014, 04:18 AM
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Ian Stott Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 2-April 14 From: Moncton Canada Member No.: 17,192 Region Association: Canada |
That is one of my favourites, if you want to keep it all Porsche consider a nice engine from Jake Raby. I look forward to watching your progress, hope you post often with great pics!
Ian Stott Moncton Canada |
r_towle |
Apr 20 2014, 05:55 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,591 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
A rebuilt 356 motor will be 10k.
Not hard to find, and will raise the value more than any type 4 motor. Rich |
barefoot |
Apr 20 2014, 08:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,282 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States |
IIRC the 1976 912E had a type 4 motor, engine tins somewhat different from 914 parts, so somewhat rarer.
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rick 918-S |
Apr 20 2014, 09:59 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,499 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Outlaw. If it were mine I would use a type IV or Porsche 6. But that's just me.
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colingreene |
Apr 20 2014, 12:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 17-October 13 From: Southern California Member No.: 16,526 Region Association: Southern California |
idk find a stock motor and hot rod it.
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smarens |
Apr 20 2014, 12:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 15-March 14 From: Michigan Member No.: 17,121 Region Association: None |
I have been looking/thinking about 912 also, not really interested in an original so I was looking at cars similar to what you found, I was thinking of Type IV motor in it or for what I thought would be $3-$4k more renegade kit for 911, didn't finish research to see if everything would work
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JmuRiz |
Apr 20 2014, 12:58 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,434 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'd make a 912/6 without a second thought with that as a base.
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patrick3000 |
Apr 20 2014, 01:50 PM
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Drums66 |
Apr 20 2014, 03:21 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
...Try to do it up original!.........& things could get very prosperous (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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