 What tool do you use to tighten front strut insert nut? Oops move me to Garage., I have heard that when they back off a bit it can cause a bang |
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| wndsnd |
 May 8 2014, 07:45 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat....  Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States   |
I am trying to hunt down a front end noise, a metallic sounding bang over bumps front right.
My suspicions are A). Sway bar drop links B) sway bar hitting tank C) strut nut. Normal tests seem fine, checking ball joint and tie rod ends. John |
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| mskala |
May 8 2014, 08:53 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None 
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I have some kind of old plumbing wrench that's notched for the
strut nut. You can borrow it if you want. I have a suspicion that it will only fit the nuts on Boge. |
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| tommy914 |
May 8 2014, 09:07 PM
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Life is a journey, enjoy every turn. Group: Members Posts: 1,103 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Ridgeland, MS Member No.: 1,165 Region Association: None |
The tool I use.
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| messix |
May 8 2014, 09:30 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
cheap ass harbor freight pipe wrench
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| r_towle |
May 9 2014, 05:22 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Pipe wrench or the proper strut wrench.
Motorcycle shops sell the correct wrench... It's a handle with a c shaped end that has one tooth to fit into one notch on the upper nut. Common wrench for adjust height motorcycle rear shocks. |
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| Krieger |
May 9 2014, 08:07 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,723 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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Check the three allen head bolts that hold the strut assembly to the fenderwell.
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| Elliot Cannon |
May 9 2014, 07:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None
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It could be your shock is shot allowing it to bottom out on bumps. Happened to me.
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| r_towle |
May 10 2014, 10:54 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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I am shocked you had a shot shock...
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| r_towle |
May 10 2014, 10:57 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Do you have a front anti sway bar?
If so, what type? Stock or aftermarket. Reason I ask is I chased a clunk at slow speed for a while It was the anti sway bar tapping the gas tank.... Lifting the tank worked to diagnose, but eventually the tank settles back down again. A piece of garden hose on the bar, under the tank, did the trick. You have to remove the tank to do it.... Rich |
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| ChrisFoley |
May 10 2014, 11:58 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,934 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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I inspected the front end when John stopped here for an oil change on the way to Hershey.
Both insert retaining nuts are loose, allowing the struts to shift a little bit. If tightening them doesn't stop the noise, I would shim up the tank an eighth inch to see if it was the sway bar hitting the tank. |
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| ClayPerrine |
May 11 2014, 11:03 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,501 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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From recent experience:
Both our 914s had an issue with the top nut on the strut housing unscrewing. THe Koni adjustable shocks ended up floating around and causing camber changes and loud clunks over bumps. Funny part about it was that it was the left shock on both cars. The Koni strut nuts have two holes in the collar. I used the 911 fan wrench to tighten them, and it seems to work fine. I can't figure out why the backed out. Betty's was in there for 2 years, and mine for 5 years. I put a locktite on the threads when I put them back. Still don't know why..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| wndsnd |
May 11 2014, 12:02 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks everyone, those housing nuts seem to be the consensus. Now I just need the energy to take it apart.
I also ordered new front and rear bump stops to replace while I am in there. I got to find the tool, I remember using a scredriver and whacking the nuts as tight as I could but I also remember there were some threads still exposed. John |
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| wndsnd |
May 11 2014, 12:03 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 10 2014, 12:57 PM)  Do you have a front anti sway bar? If so, what type? Stock or aftermarket. Reason I ask is I chased a clunk at slow speed for a while It was the anti sway bar tapping the gas tank.... Lifting the tank worked to diagnose, but eventually the tank settles back down again. A piece of garden hose on the bar, under the tank, did the trick. You have to remove the tank to do it.... Rich Stock sway bar. I will check the tank placement as well, but I am going to start with the struts. |
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| wndsnd |
May 11 2014, 12:07 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
Can I do these by dropping from the top without taking the strut off the car?
I really want to avoid the whole ball joint thing again...... |
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| ChrisFoley |
May 11 2014, 01:48 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,934 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(wndsnd @ May 11 2014, 01:07 PM) Can I do these by dropping from the top without taking the strut off the car? Yes. |
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| r_towle |
May 11 2014, 03:52 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Jack up one side of the car, or both..no difference.
Hold car on jack stands not touching the control arms or suspension...so under the body somewhere. Remove wheel Remove sway bar drop link on the side you will work on Remove top nut on strut, just the big one. From a sitting or kneeling position, good leverage, grab onto the dust shield at the top of the strut from within the wheel well. Pull down really hard to compress the strut. If you have a gas strut like a bilstein, hang on tight once you remove the strut from its proper home....it has enough juice to dent the fender if you let to. While pulling down, swing the strut out of the fender so when you let go, it expands outside of the fender area. Then you can relax...have a break. From there, remove the dust cover, fix the nut, and put it back in again the same way. If you have oil filled struts it will be much less drama...they don't spring up. Speaking from experience.... The bils have enough gas power to dent the fender from below if you slip. So, get comfy and get in a good position to do it all in one move without letting go. Rich |
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| wndsnd |
May 11 2014, 04:12 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
Yes I have the Bilsteins.
Thanks for the narrative Rich. |
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| r_towle |
May 11 2014, 04:14 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Then be careful....
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| r_towle |
May 11 2014, 04:15 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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It's not terrible, just a lot of pressure to hang on to if you are not comfy and ready for it...
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| struckn |
May 11 2014, 06:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,069 Joined: 9-November 11 From: South Central York Pennsyvania Member No.: 13,764 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 11 2014, 01:52 PM) Jack up one side of the car, or both..no difference. Hold car on jack stands not touching the control arms or suspension...so under the body somewhere. Remove wheel Remove sway bar drop link on the side you will work on Remove top nut on strut, just the big one. From a sitting or kneeling position, good leverage, grab onto the dust shield at the top of the strut from within the wheel well. Pull down really hard to compress the strut. If you have a gas strut like a bilstein, hang on tight once you remove the strut from its proper home....it has enough juice to dent the fender if you let to. While pulling down, swing the strut out of the fender so when you let go, it expands outside of the fender area. Then you can relax...have a break. From there, remove the dust cover, fix the nut, and put it back in again the same way. If you have oil filled struts it will be much less drama...they don't spring up. Speaking from experience.... The bils have enough gas power to dent the fender from below if you slip. So, get comfy and get in a good position to do it all in one move without letting go. Rich (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That's exactly the way, as Rich says, that worked for me when I did it last year and was the fix for the clunking noise I had to the Left Front. Easy to do and done in 30 minutes. |
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