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RevWife's 914, Pulling a 914 back onto the road |
Mikedrevguy |
May 19 2014, 09:34 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Picked up a 76 2.0 for my better 1/2.
It's been off the road for the past -10 years. Motor spins freely and, reportedly, was rebuilt shortly before it was parked (which was due to physical limitations). Paint is heavily oxidized. Brakes were locked up, rotors rust covered. Car had been hit previously, and the resulting bondo has cracked pretty badly. Interior is nice, seats have no tears or holes. Dash has a couple cracks, but nothing overly grotesque. As I begin getting this back roadworthy, Am pulling fuel tank to be cleaned out thoroughly. Replacing all fuel and vacuum lines. Changing oil and trans fluid. Will go through brake system. See what's good. What's in need of replace or [email]repair. My question: where can I go for a list of what pieces parts are compatible from year to year in the 914. Interested in front and rear hoods, top, brake calipers - Or more specifically, I've a line on a 71 running complete parts car- what will cross over between a 71 and a 76? Thanks. I look forward to posting pics (when I get them and figure out how they work on this forum. Rev. |
DRPHIL914 |
May 19 2014, 10:00 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,769 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
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there are a few things that are not the same for early vs late cars. - you fron and rear hood should be able to be used. there are differences in the brakes and suspension bits, look to Eric at PMB performance for the specifics. he is an expert and will tell you all you need to know. if you hve original motor with F>I> the wiring for the motors has some variation as well - again i have a 75, and have not had an early car, but most of what you wand or need will be interchange with 74-76, although even the MPS for the FI will be different,. i am not aware of any one document that would list out the different years/parts and their compatability but hat would be really cool if someone put one together. |
green914 |
May 19 2014, 11:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,467 Joined: 29-March 11 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 12,874 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) there are a few things that are not the same for early vs late cars. - you fron and rear hood should be able to be used. there are differences in the brakes and suspension bits, look to Eric at PMB performance for the specifics. he is an expert and will tell you all you need to know. if you hve original motor with F>I> the wiring for the motors has some variation as well - again i have a 75, and have not had an early car, but most of what you wand or need will be interchange with 74-76, although even the MPS for the FI will be different,. i am not aware of any one document that would list out the different years/parts and their compatability but hat would be really cool if someone put one together. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Would be a nice addition to my 914 library. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
rick 918-S |
May 19 2014, 12:26 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,503 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
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Mikedrevguy |
May 19 2014, 01:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks for the welcome, and for the direction.
What I founds PMB Performance is that 70-72 rotors/calipers do differ from the 73-76. The offset is the factor. However,if swapped together, they should work. PMB Performance Also, the later rotor/caliper set up is compatible with the VW Type 3. And here's another sheet listing parts and comps 914 parts interchange Thanks again. Rev. |
jmill |
May 19 2014, 01:07 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Mikedrevguy |
May 19 2014, 01:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Considering the offset- will changing the offset affect what wheels I can run?
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JeffBowlsby |
May 19 2014, 01:45 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,548 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
First off...its incorrect to think of 914s as 'early' and 'late'. 914s are at least broadly categorized as early / mid / late and the line between those categories can be fuzzy. In reality each year has significant differences.
Some parts can easily swap onto all model years, but some others are 1 year only. Please leave the running 'complete' 71 alone...let someone else bring it back, don't take one down for a couple of parts. You can find whatever parts you need individually elsewhere. |
Dave_Darling |
May 19 2014, 04:18 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The tops are different, though if you swap over the seals from your later top to the earlier one, it should work. (A knowledgeable person could probably tell from looking at the underside of the top that it wasn't right, but...)
The brakes are different. Rears are interchangeable. Fronts are not, nor are the front struts and ball joints. (Unless you replace struts, ball joints, brakes as a unit--not recommended, as the later bits are slightly better.) If you hunt through the Porsche website for a while, you can find "Porsche Classic" and then a PDF of the parts catalog. It isn't perfect, as some parts have been superceded to stuff from later cars that isn't the same, but it does have some information on running changes in part numbers. --DD |
Mikedrevguy |
May 19 2014, 07:19 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i456.photobucket.com-17371-1400548741.2.jpg)okay, there are a couple tears. But I'm not shedding any tears. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i456.photobucket.com-17371-1400548741.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i456.photobucket.com-17371-1400548741.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i456.photobucket.com-17371-1400548741.5.jpg) |
hndyhrr |
May 19 2014, 08:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 1-September 13 From: central point,oregon Member No.: 16,332 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Mikedrevguy |
May 20 2014, 09:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Mikedrevguy |
May 22 2014, 09:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
In effort to avoid the procrastinator's thread, yesterday, I pulled the wheels off and sprayed wd40 in the ebrake cables/mechanisms.
Next up, A)pulling the rotors to have the rust removed B) getting new battery and assessing the electrical system C)pulling fuel tank Or D) other? |
Mikedrevguy |
May 22 2014, 10:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
And rear rotors mic out at - 9.75mm
Fronts - 10.4 & 10.2 That's before being turned. |
bulitt |
May 22 2014, 10:47 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
Some late cars equipped with smog stuff may have to pass emissions in some states.
Wiring harnesses are different. Steering columns are different. Dashes have different sizes for glove box. And late has side vents. Kneepads different Window regulators and side glass different. Front and rear- side window glass brackets different. Bumpers different Brake hose clips different Transmissions may be side or rear shift. |
relentless |
May 22 2014, 01:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 1-April 07 From: Oregon Member No.: 7,636 |
Welcome! I'm in Cave Junction. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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Mikedrevguy |
May 24 2014, 08:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Found the fuel pump. What's the white box?
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i456.photobucket.com-17371-1400983319.1.jpg) Tank is t and ll be going to radiator shop for cleaning and sealing (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i456.photobucket.com-17371-1400983319.2.jpg) Any thoughts on cleaning the fuel sending unit (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i456.photobucket.com-17371-1400983320.3.jpg) Is there a list of hose sizes and types I'll need to replace the entirety of the fuel system? Verified that the brakes to work. Each rotor locks up; at lest there aren't any frozen cylinders. |
Mikedrevguy |
May 24 2014, 08:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Should be a fun drive out there one of these days. |
bdstone914 |
May 24 2014, 08:11 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,541 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
The white box is the fuel filter. That fuel sender might be trashed. I have never seen one with that much varnish. There is probably as much inside which has a sliding float. You can try soaking it a closed container of lacquer thinner. If you are carefully you ca open them up from the bottom. After soaking it turn it upside down and you should hear the float slide to the other end. New ones are pricy at about $160. Sometimes you can find good used ones.
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Mikedrevguy |
May 24 2014, 08:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 19-May 14 From: Medford, Or Member No.: 17,371 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thought it might be the filter, but, gosh, you think it could have been placed in a MORE inconvenient place? Hw often should they be changed?
How concerned should I be with the fuel pump, there being THAT much varnish in the tank- will that have gummed up the pump? |
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