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Help ! Where's the Rust .. ? |
Beakster |
Aug 19 2015, 09:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 121 Joined: 13-August 15 From: Calgary,AB Canada Member No.: 19,055 Region Association: None |
I'm looking at a 914 today and I need to know where to look for the rust on a 914 .. The knowen areas like the Battary box (hell hole) and rockers .. But is there any special places .. pictures would also help .. Thanks guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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JawjaPorsche |
Aug 19 2015, 09:30 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
Floor pads, inside rear trunk near tail lights. If it has vinyl sails, look for bubbling under the vinyl.
Check exhaust and heat exchangers to see if it is rusted out. I am sure others can add other places. |
Elliot Cannon |
Aug 19 2015, 09:37 AM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
Don't just look at the rocker panels. You need to remove them or somehow look under them. The longitudinal channels under the rockers are the "back bone" of the chassis. Any rust there MUST be taken care of.
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brant |
Aug 19 2015, 09:53 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I've said it until people are sick of hearing it
but its still good advice to never buy a car without removing the rocker covers... I say this after learning the hard way and I think a few thousand others have learned the hard way too |
DRPHIL914 |
Aug 19 2015, 11:10 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,768 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
I've said it until people are sick of hearing it but its still good advice to never buy a car without removing the rocker covers... I say this after learning the hard way and I think a few thousand others have learned the hard way too yep, bought my first one with out doing this and it will be an extensive repair when it gets done. only good thing here is i didnt pay too much for it at the time, and the values voer 6 years hvae gone up enough to be worth putting $5-$10k into it. would be better to just buy a welder and do what many here have done- if engine shelf and hell hole, door jams, sail panels, rear jack points are solid, great!! |
7TPorsh |
Aug 19 2015, 11:21 AM
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7T Porsh Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California |
Floor board under pedals....cowl under windshield
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iwanta914-6 |
Aug 19 2015, 11:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 26-June 09 From: Minnesota Member No.: 10,510 Region Association: None |
Are rocker panels difficult to remove? Should the seller do it?
I'm thinking when I start looking more seriously, I'll have to recruit someone locally that is a little more familiar to help me. |
Cuda911 |
Aug 19 2015, 11:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,489 Joined: 20-May 14 From: Oceanside (N. San Diego County), CA Member No.: 17,376 Region Association: Southern California |
Are rocker panels difficult to remove? Should the seller do it? I'm thinking when I start looking more seriously, I'll have to recruit someone locally that is a little more familiar to help me. East to remove them "sort of." There's a series of rivets along the top side, and three screws on the bottom. Getting the lower screws out can be difficult, since they tend to freeze into place. Some liquid wrench, vice grips, and cursing can help. |
porschetub |
Aug 19 2015, 01:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,705 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Are rocker panels difficult to remove? Should the seller do it? I'm thinking when I start looking more seriously, I'll have to recruit someone locally that is a little more familiar to help me. East to remove them "sort of." There's a series of rivets along the top side, and three screws on the bottom. Getting the lower screws out can be difficult, since they tend to freeze into place. Some liquid wrench, vice grips, and cursing can help. Problem is will the owner let you do this? ok it theres no rivets and just screws. |
era vulgaris |
Aug 19 2015, 02:09 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
I'm looking at a 914 today and I need to know where to look for the rust on a 914 .. The knowen areas like the Battary box (hell hole) and rockers .. But is there any special places .. pictures would also help .. Thanks guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Everywhere. Seriously, EVERYWHERE. I learned the hard way. Scour every inch of metal you can see. Pull up carpets, remove rocker panels, look deep into every angle of the wheel wells, door jambs, longitudinals, engine compartment, rear trunk, front trunk, under the headlights, inside the doors, sail panels, floorpan, center tunnel, firewall, behind bumpers, rain gutters on front and rear trunks, engine mounts, trans mounts, suspension consoles, suspension mounting points, fenders...you get the picture. It ALL rusts. Spend as much time as the seller will let you scouring the car. And bring a bright flashlight. |
thieuster |
Aug 19 2015, 02:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 31-January 15 From: 275 mls NW from Stuttgart. Member No.: 18,384 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE And bring a bright flashlight. ... and a magnet! front wings near the A-pillar... Menno |
rhodyguy |
Aug 19 2015, 04:09 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,090 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Invest in an ice pick. Lower firewall at the floor. If you find a bad spot the pick doesn't leave a big hole like a screwdriver would. How are you going to know what is going on under any undercoating and the tar panels on the floors?
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montoya 73 2.0 |
Aug 19 2015, 04:44 PM
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Lack of consideration to others, and Selfish! Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: 27-October 04 From: Paso Robles, Ca. Member No.: 3,016 Region Association: Central California |
as already stated previously, plenty of places to look. Basically anywhere water or moisture can stand for long periods of time. click the link below for a few pics to see.
Rust...Where to look. |
jimkelly |
Aug 20 2015, 02:26 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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turk22 |
Aug 20 2015, 08:34 PM
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Treetop Flyer Group: Members Posts: 735 Joined: 27-July 12 From: Cincinnati OH Member No.: 14,725 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'm looking at a 914 today and I need to know where to look for the rust on a 914 .. The knowen areas like the Battary box (hell hole) and rockers .. But is there any special places .. pictures would also help .. Thanks guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) If you can't find rust, you are probably not looking at 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
ntmatter |
Aug 22 2015, 07:01 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: 10-May 11 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 13,049 Region Association: None |
as already stated previously, plenty of places to look. Basically anywhere water or moisture can stand for long periods of time. click the link below for a few pics to see. Rust...Where to look. This is super-helpful - I'm in the first day of a teardown/fixup and it's nice to have a more simple guide to help know what to look for. Naturally, if you search for "rust on a 914" you'll get an ocean of results - too much to understand for a new owner. On mine, the floorboards are rusted out significantly, but having removed the rocker the outboard sides of the panels look pretty good. Both trunks are good on mine (this is a car with basketball size holes in both footwells) - so next task it to figure out how much of the undertray needs to be replaced. |
MikeM |
Aug 23 2015, 08:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 564 Joined: 16-May 10 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 11,733 Region Association: Canada |
I guess I'll never sell my car then,no way I'm letting someone hack at it with a pick or drill out rivets!!
Mike |
r_towle |
Aug 23 2015, 09:00 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
If anyone touched my car with an ice pick, that would be a bad scene.
I would however remove the covers because this is a 914 and people need to see the truth. If I am spending real money on a 914......which I would not....I buy them cheap and fix them... I would insist on the rockers being removed by the owner before I get out of my chair to go look. If they won't do that, find another car... |
rhodyguy |
Aug 23 2015, 09:54 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,090 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
"Hacking with a pick"? Wtf. PROBING. Not like stabbing as hard as I can. In most cases even well camouflaged shit repairs are exposed with gentle pressure. No rust? No real scars are left behind and it causes no real damage. I don't have X-ray vision. If I can't look for rust in a noninvasive manner, the seller has something to hide and I don't want the car.
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MikeM |
Aug 23 2015, 10:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 564 Joined: 16-May 10 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 11,733 Region Association: Canada |
NONINVASIVE would be the key word here!!!
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