OT: registering a >= 1976 engine swap in CA |
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OT: registering a >= 1976 engine swap in CA |
siverson |
Dec 30 2015, 11:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,448 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California |
This is way off topic, and I'm sure the answer is going to be "run away", but I've been browsing the MK1 GTIs for a while and this one has popped up:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?...oject-Grey-Hair Seems like a great start, and pretty cheap. But... how hard would it be to get it registered in California? Anyone have any ideas? -Steve Attached image(s) |
Mike Bellis |
Dec 31 2015, 12:33 AM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
It needs to have all the smog equipment from the donor car. From the fuel tank to the engine and exhaust.
Then you need to go to a BAR approved referee station and have them certify the swap. |
Mike Bellis |
Dec 31 2015, 12:34 AM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Based on the VW Vortex ad, it will be expensive to make it smogable...
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Martin Baker |
Dec 31 2015, 12:36 AM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
I have owned several MK1 GTI and Sciroccos. I love those cars. While I was in Germany I had an 80, and an 83 Pirelli Edition. Also had one of the US made 83 GTI's. I recently sold my 1980 MK1 Scirroco S.
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matthepcat |
Dec 31 2015, 01:01 AM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
Actually I read the build thread. It's a diesel chassis.
NO SMOG! Buy it! It's sweet! http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?...-grey-hare-quot |
siverson |
Dec 31 2015, 09:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,448 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California |
> It's a diesel chassis.
> NO SMOG! I don't think that's how it works in CA... ? -Steve |
siverson |
Dec 31 2015, 09:18 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,448 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California |
> Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption?
> Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is: > ... > Diesel powered 1997 year model and older Oh hmmmm... this is all so new to me... -Steve |
Andyrew |
Dec 31 2015, 09:36 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
> It's a diesel chassis. > NO SMOG! I don't think that's how it works in CA... ? -Steve Thats how it works in CA (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) From DMV Website. "Currently, smog inspections are required for all vehicles except diesel powered vehicles 1997 year model and older or with a Gross Vehicle Weight (GVWR) of more than 14,000 lbs, electric, natural gas powered vehicles over 14,000 lbs, motorcycles, trailers, or gasoline powered vehicles 1975 and older." Buy it! Put in a GT28RS Eliminator turbo, Get it tuned by a buddy of mine and have 300hp! |
jmill |
Dec 31 2015, 09:46 AM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Man, I love the MK1 GTI's. Tried to get my 16 year old son to get one instead of a Honda. I used to race against the GTI in SCCA. It was crazy how the inside rear tire would always lift a foot or so in the air around every corner.
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matthepcat |
Dec 31 2015, 11:31 AM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
Yea, back in high school I had buddies that would buy the diesel K5 Blazers and yank the drivetrain for big block V8's for off-road rigs. This is back when smog year in CA was still 1964 or something.
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Mike Bellis |
Dec 31 2015, 06:25 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Here's the problem...
To import it into California, DMV will do a VIN inspection. During this inspection they will discover the engine swap and you will be fuched. I have imported twice and they always look at the engine. If it were already in CA then I would say go for it. |
Andyrew |
Dec 31 2015, 06:37 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
You could have someone from a non smog county register it under their name and then transfer ownership. Nothing illegal about it and it would bypass that problem...
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DBCooper |
Dec 31 2015, 07:21 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
Worst case pull the engine, trailer it to get the VIN verified, then take it home and put it back together.
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Mike Bellis |
Dec 31 2015, 08:31 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
You could have someone from a non smog county register it under their name and then transfer ownership. Nothing illegal about it and it would bypass that problem... That will not get you around the DMV VIN inspection. Every vehicle imported is required to have the VIN inspection. There is a slim chance that AAA might be able to do it if you are a member. CHP can do it but they might also discover the engine swap. This is a no go... Not worth the headache... Or the $$$ it will cost to swap back in a diesel engine if caught... |
Mike Bellis |
Dec 31 2015, 08:33 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
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damesandhotrods |
Dec 31 2015, 10:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 568 Joined: 26-September 10 From: Santa Cruz California Member No.: 12,218 Region Association: Northern California |
It has been a while since I was around anyone with a pre-1997 Diesel but as I remember it Diesels did not require smog inspections. But they were required to be inspected to verify it was still Diesel powered…
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strawman |
Jan 3 2016, 12:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 881 Joined: 25-January 08 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 8,624 Region Association: Central California |
I swapped a 1997 VW Passat TDI into my 1993 Eurovan Westy, and just got it BAR'd. No more smog!
I'm now swapping an S52 out of a 1998 BMW M3 into my 1996 BMW 318ti(replacing a BAR'd M52 out 0f a 328i). Should be a real monster. I need to stop these "side projects" and finish the turbo Suby into my 914... |
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