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spiral piston pin rings suck |
nebreitling |
Mar 17 2005, 01:29 PM
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they suck a lot. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif)
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phantom914 |
Mar 17 2005, 01:31 PM
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Jake Raby |
Mar 17 2005, 01:34 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Nope.. You just have to get used to them.. They do their job VERY well and thats the main thing. A small flat blade screwdriver and dental pick are your best friends.
Wait till you have to remove them.... My 3 liter has TRIPLE spiral locks... |
nebreitling |
Mar 17 2005, 01:40 PM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
i'm figuring them out now. got to do a little pre-stretch it seems to spiral them in.
i can't imagine what a PITA it would be to take out those triple spirals!! i can certainly see why they'd do their job so well. |
MattR |
Mar 17 2005, 01:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
Im just curious, how do you remove them? Do you have to destroy them? When I was putting them in I was thinking "these are permanent, dont fuck up matt"
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Demick |
Mar 17 2005, 01:52 PM
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Ernie made me do it! Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,312 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Pleasanton, CA Member No.: 257 |
Once you get the hang of them they install very easy. Yes, you stretch them out first and use a jewelers screwdriver to put them in.
I did have to remove the cylinders on one side after I installed the spiral rings. Boy, getting them out is VERY difficult!! I think it took me a full hour (and a lot of cursing and sweating) to get out those two spiral rings. I don't envy the person who disassembles my engine or any other engine with these retainers (hopefully it will not be me!) Demick |
muddboy |
Mar 17 2005, 08:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 10-November 04 From: Anahiem, CA Member No.: 3,085 Region Association: Southern California |
There really is a trick to it.... I end up assembling 3 or 4 V'8's a week with double spiro-locs. I had to get used to it. And once you know the tricks, its really easy (in and out). thought you still with get cut once in a while... those things are sharp for my fat fingers.
what I hate is what alot of guys are going with now days is a round "wire-loc". gotta hold your tounge just right... or "ping" and it goes flying across the room. |
Jake Raby |
Mar 17 2005, 09:10 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
The wire lock came from NASCAR.. I Love it and now all my custom pistons use them.
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Brett W |
Mar 17 2005, 09:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
Spiro-locks are great aren't they. As bad as they are to get out they do stay put. They are loads of fun on a VW motor because you get to work around the studs as well. At least on normal engines you can assemble the pins on the bench. I think Powerhouse makes a tool called a Lock-Buster. I have heard it works pretty well.
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