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> WTB 914-6 Original Engine Mounting parts
teachkenpo
post Jan 27 2016, 08:57 PM
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Hello, I am new to 914 World, but have been a member of other Porsche forums for over 10 years. I have predominantly collected 911's, but recently purchased a 1970 914-6 project and that has brought me here.

I am looking for some original engine mounting parts. On the attached diagram I am looking for parts 1, 2 and 3. If you have any of those parts, please let me know.
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QUOTE(teachkenpo @ Jan 28 2016, 03:57 PM) *

Hello, I am new to 914 World, but have been a member of other Porsche forums for over 10 years. I have predominantly collected 911's, but recently purchased a 1970 914-6 project and that has brought me here.

I am looking for some original engine mounting parts. On the attached diagram I am looking for parts 1, 2 and 3. If you have any of those parts, please let me know.
Thank You,
John

Mittelmotor in Germany had them a while back but they were $$$$$$,the top and bottom plates aren't hard to make if you have a pattern??,a member on here my loan/hire you one dunno.
My top mount plate is custom fabricated and fits the mount perfectly,the PO had it made.
If you get stuck I could send you pics and dimensions by email (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) .
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post Jan 29 2016, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE(teachkenpo @ Jan 28 2016, 03:57 PM) *

Hello, I am new to 914 World, but have been a member of other Porsche forums for over 10 years. I have predominantly collected 911's, but recently purchased a 1970 914-6 project and that has brought me here.

I am looking for some original engine mounting parts. On the attached diagram I am looking for parts 1, 2 and 3. If you have any of those parts, please let me know.
Thank You,
John

Mittelmotor in Germany had them a while back but they were $$$$$$,the top and bottom plates aren't hard to make if you have a pattern??,a member on here my loan/hire you one dunno.
My top mount plate is custom fabricated and fits the mount perfectly,the PO had it made.
If you get stuck I could send you pics and dimensions by email (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) .



The site shows engine mount,top and bottom mount plates @ 400 euro,shipping cost extra but you do get the VAT tax subtracted from the price if inclusive as you are buying from overseas.
Don't imagine the shipping would be unreasonable.
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post Jan 29 2016, 09:29 AM
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Proper engine mounts are in production and I'm told should be on the market in a couple months. Attached Image

This is a photo sent to me of the first production piece
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post Jan 29 2016, 09:58 AM
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Proper engine mounts are in production and I'm told should be on the market in a couple months. Attached Image

This is a photo sent to me of the first production piece


Excellent. Who will be marketing them and do you have an estimated price?

Thanks,

Greg
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post Jan 29 2016, 10:06 AM
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Proper engine mounts are in production and I'm told should be on the market in a couple months. Attached Image

This is a photo sent to me of the first production piece


Excellent. Who will be marketing them and do you have an estimated price?

Thanks,

Greg



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post Jan 29 2016, 10:21 AM
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My understanding is the usual people; Pelican, Sierra Madre, etc....

I have no pricing info just inside info from a contact, but if I get more info before they're on the market I'll pass it along here.

I guess now will be the time to start grabbing used engine consoles (#4); the rest of the pieces can be fabricated and I think the firewall piece is being made by Mittlemotor in Germany already?


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QUOTE(gcrotvik @ Jan 29 2016, 07:58 AM) *

QUOTE(aturboman @ Jan 29 2016, 07:29 AM) *

Proper engine mounts are in production and I'm told should be on the market in a couple months. Attached Image

This is a photo sent to me of the first production piece


Excellent. Who will be marketing them and do you have an estimated price?

Thanks,

Greg



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This engine mount has always baffled me, so I'll ask a possibly dumb question: The 6-cylinder engine is attached to a vertical plate that essentially spans the width of the engine bay at the fan end when mounted in a 911. But, when turned around and installed in a 914, it's instead mounted at a single central point? I realize the transaxle supports provide some torque resistance, but why what appears to be so much less support for the engine when used in the fourteener? Am I missing something? Thanks guys.

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post Jan 29 2016, 03:32 PM
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post Jan 29 2016, 03:34 PM
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post Jan 29 2016, 03:41 PM
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MR you about nailed it; there is not much triangulation to counter the torque on the stock 914-6 factory mount set-up. As these mounts age I've noticed they definitely allow even more movement since the rubber is now 40+ years old in many cases.
The last NOS mount I had was appreciably stiffer than any older used ones by comparison, so I'm guessing most of the original mounts in service really should be changed to optimize an already marginal design.

Interesting to note the factory did stiffen the firewall plate on the GT and 916 with additional metal to better spread the torque load and triangulate the forces a bit more. I suspect they also knew the design was not optimal for bigger HP.

In reality the aftermarket designs that spread the load out further to the sides are likely better but do take up much more space and add more weight.

The factory design is definitely "clean" and takes up very little space in a pretty crowded engine compartment.




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This engine mount has always baffled me, so I'll ask a possibly dumb question: The 6-cylinder engine is attached to a vertical plate that essentially spans the width of the engine bay at the fan end when mounted in a 911. But, when turned around and installed in a 914, it's instead mounted at a single central point? I realize the transaxle supports provide some torque resistance, but why what appears to be so much less support for the engine when used in the fourteener? Am I missing something? Thanks guys.

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post Jan 29 2016, 03:49 PM
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If you get stuck I could send you pics and dimensions by email (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) .

Thank you for the offer of photo's. Hopefully I can just find the parts. I did check the Mittelmotor sight and they do seem to have the correct part. That is a good backup source incase the US parts don't materialize. Thank you for the guidance.
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post Jan 31 2016, 08:18 AM
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Lots of posts about center mounting:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=209763

The boxsters and may race models were mounted with only a center mount.

The 911 had a wide mount because of the body strength. Making a 911 center mount would require substantial reinforcement of the body. It's basically impractical.
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post Jan 31 2016, 12:13 PM
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The factory 3 point mounting confiquration is also the quietest inside the cabin. The Patrick firewall mount I used is very nice but it transmits more noise/vibes into car compared to my car with factory mount.

Also keep in mind factory -6 cars used beefier tranny mounts since they were doing more work of the work.
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I think they are made in Poland.

Made by Marek the same guy that make a lot of 911 parts.
He have started making parts for 914 now.
He have borrowed a lot of nos parts to copy them.
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