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Balljoint wiggle... |
falcor75 |
Apr 28 2016, 11:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,579 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia |
On my newly restored car I tried on my other wheels the other day and I noticed quite a bit of wiggle in the drivers side balljoint, the balljoints are new Lemforder ones bought from Pelican about a year and a half ago and I've only driven the car around the block twice so maybe a mile at the most.
https://youtu.be/1gPlFXrJoOQ Here's a clip of the wiggle....not sure what would cause this on a new part? |
anderssj |
Apr 28 2016, 12:01 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
On my newly restored car I tried on my other wheels the other day and I noticed quite a bit of wiggle in the drivers side balljoint, the balljoints are new Lemforder ones bought from Pelican about a year and a half ago and I've only driven the car around the block twice so maybe a mile at the most. https://youtu.be/1gPlFXrJoOQ Here's a clip of the wiggle....not sure what would cause this on a new part? Given that it's a new ball joint, the problem could be the bottom of the strut . . . Is that an early pinch-bolt or later wedge-pin ball joint/strut? On my early car, the pinch-bolt on the strut wouldn't fully tighten on the shaft of the ball joint. Can't remember the fix--we may have ended up using a thin shim wrapped around ball joint shaft so the strut/pinch-bolt could get a better grip. Hope this helps. Steve A- |
r_towle |
Apr 28 2016, 12:45 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
If it's early, many times the bottom of the strut gets oval where the ball joint fits in.
I gave up after two sets of strut tubes and upgraded to the later trust tubes, rotors, brakes etc....it's a whole package |
falcor75 |
Apr 28 2016, 12:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,579 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia |
Yes the struts are '69 911 struts, with the pinch bolt.
Would really suck if they were toast (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
914fahrer |
Apr 28 2016, 12:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 12-November 14 From: Berlin/Germany Member No.: 18,115 Region Association: Germany |
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Mikey914 |
Apr 28 2016, 05:37 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,677 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Definitely a different manufacturer, at least different tool.
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ThePaintedMan |
Apr 28 2016, 05:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
It's difficult to see what the actual problem is in the video. It does look like the strut is moving independently from the top of the ball joint. I'd highly doubt the ball joint itself is worn out. But I hate to tell you this, but you need to separate the ball joint and the strut so we can actually see what's going on. Rich's explanation of the 'ovaling' makes sense though.
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JamesM |
Apr 28 2016, 06:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,915 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
It looks like the strut housing is not tight on the balljoint, I have had the same problem with the early ones as well. If the strut housing is starting to strip you will never be able to get the bolt tight enough to clamp on the ball joint. You could try to get a longer bolt and throw a nut on the back side of it in order to torque it down better. If that doesent work then the housing may be ovaled
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falcor75 |
Apr 28 2016, 10:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,579 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia |
I woke up at 3 am with creeping suspicion, just checked back in my emails and I ordered the 914 '74 balljoints from Pelican (911.341.049.05) but I should have ordered the 901.349.049.04? Not sure if there's a difference since they look the same in the pictures.
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914fahrer |
Apr 29 2016, 09:10 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 12-November 14 From: Berlin/Germany Member No.: 18,115 Region Association: Germany |
Hello,
the correct Part number is 901-341-049-04 truh chassi number 4722919032 have the cars the earlier strut.But I think the hole in your Strut is oval i would check this first.The only difference is the cut out for the bolt. Ralf |
falcor75 |
Apr 29 2016, 09:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,579 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia |
I have no idea what chassis number the struts are from but I've ordered as set of cheap -04 balljoints to test with. With any luck they'll work better. If the hole is ovaled then I'll just have to find a pair of better condition struts.
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falcor75 |
May 4 2016, 11:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,579 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia |
New early type balljoints installed, wiggle completely gone.
Case closed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) |
mepstein |
May 4 2016, 11:36 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,307 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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914fahrer |
May 4 2016, 02:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 12-November 14 From: Berlin/Germany Member No.: 18,115 Region Association: Germany |
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