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| Rathguten |
 May 19 2016, 06:13 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-May 16 From: Hialeah,FL Member No.: 20,003 Region Association: None  |
Hello 914world! Newbie to the site and 914s. I recently purchased a 1973 2.0. The car was purchased twelve years ago by the previous owner and has been sitting for four years. The seller provided all sorts of new parts and a binder with receipts going back to the day it was purchased new. I have several air cooled VWs and was just about ready to start the resto of my 1950 type 1 when this little distraction came along. The more I read about these cars the more excited I get to get it road worthy again.
I was able to start the engine, but the fuel lines are brittle and the fuel tank has a lot of sludge. I have since pulled the tank and purchased a replacement and also removed the fuel pump and all the old lines. The car still has the plastic fuel lines and I'm planning on replacing them in the near future. However I just want to get the car running so I can get a better idea of what direction to go in. Like I said earlier, I don't have any previous knowledge about these cars, so please feel free to chime in with advice or comments.    |
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| iankarr |
May 19 2016, 06:19 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region 
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You're in for a lot of fun. Def check out tangerine racing for their SS fuel line kit. They also have a bunch of other stuff you'll want. http://www.tangerineracing.com/stainlessfuellines.htm I bought my 73 2.0 about a year ago and this community is amazing. Enjoy! |
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| jrblackbox |
May 19 2016, 06:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 285 Joined: 8-September 15 From: Easton, CT Member No.: 19,140 Region Association: None
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congrats! Nice looking car! is the roof body color?
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| smarens |
May 19 2016, 07:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 15-March 14 From: Michigan Member No.: 17,121 Region Association: None |
love the plaid seats, want to do that to mine, good luck with project, sounds like mine, need to get it driving to see what you have, sounds like you are on the right track
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| veekry9 |
May 19 2016, 07:19 PM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
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A slightly rusted Florida car,well,there is some work ahead,starting with the fuel tank and lines,the cause of many a fire. If you smell fuel,carry a couple of fire extinguishers and keep them handy when starting. A cleaned and swish coated tank with the stainless lines is a good first step,after the horrifying rustholes assessment. Disconnect the battery or install an isolation switch,as the gremlin of electricity resides within,a full checkout needed. A peek and poke into the hellhole,camera used constantly as you circle the unsightly rust,warily. A few shots of rust converter and rattlecan silver will enhance the appearance in those 50' pix,at least slow the rust. This is the place,the answer of every question,since,like forever. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Rathguten |
May 19 2016, 08:41 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-May 16 From: Hialeah,FL Member No.: 20,003 Region Association: None |
Thank you so much for the warm welcome and advice. The top is in fact body color. While I haven't checked every inch yet, the car has surprisingly little rust, particularly for a Florida car. Having restored numerous vintage VWs, rust is something I am well acquainted with. While I'm not afraid to tackle rust repairs it is definitely not my favorite thing to do. Right now I just want to get it rolling under its own power. I've found that my motivation is always that much greater once I make that driving connection with a car. The fuel tank is on it's way so in the meantime I'm going to check to the fuel pump and replace the rubber hoses. I will try to update as often as possible and post more pictures as progrss occurs. As a side note, looking at the original purchase order, the price paid on July 9th 1973 was $7,448.15.
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| r_towle |
May 19 2016, 09:08 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,705 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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You can (for now) use the attic lines in the tunnel. You really must replace ALL the rubber lines in the fuel system...you are dealing with 60 PSI until the regulator, and burning 914,s happens to often. Once you get all the rubber replaced there are many here who will be happy to help you get going. Look at the top right of the page to see 914 info. Search that for lots of good stuff, and two other sites for the two fuel injection systems these things have....so you can learn all about them. If you have interest in a few more beetle, let me know... |
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| Cairo94507 |
May 19 2016, 09:17 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,317 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Well you have a great car to begin with. It sounds like this is not your first rodeo, so you know the drill. Organization is the key. Good luck.
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| Frankvw |
May 20 2016, 12:24 AM
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working on my first 914 ! Group: Members Posts: 653 Joined: 13-April 16 From: Holland, the Netherlands Member No.: 19,896 Region Association: Europe |
i like the seat(covers). Interesting car to start with. Are those rockercovers set up for already flared fenders ?
off topic (not 100% off topic) : a 1950 T1 ?? wow. I am also from the VW scene, so that pulled my attention for sure. Good luck with the work on this 914 ! |
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| mark04usa |
May 20 2016, 01:29 AM
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'70 1.7 Tangerine Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 14-September 09 From: Austin TX Member No.: 10,805 Region Association: Southwest Region
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Great car! Please do keep us posted on progress. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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| aharder |
May 20 2016, 05:42 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,695 Joined: 6-September 11 From: Dallas Texas Member No.: 13,524 Region Association: Southwest Region
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| JoeD |
May 20 2016, 05:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 19-July 15 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 18,973 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(cuddyk @ May 19 2016, 08:19 PM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) You're in for a lot of fun. Def check out tangerine racing for their SS fuel line kit. They also have a bunch of other stuff you'll want. http://www.tangerineracing.com/stainlessfuellines.htm I bought my 73 2.0 about a year ago and this community is amazing. Enjoy! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I bought my '73 about a year ago, and fuel lines were a disaster. Chris at Tangerine is your friend there for sure. He can provide not just the SS tunnel lines but all the rubber lines you need, fuel pump kit with filter, clamps, the works. And like nearly everyone on this site, he's super helpful. Also- and I'm sure you've picked this up already- you'll want to bookmark 914Rubber.com. I should have just hit the "One of Everything" button on that site the day I brought mine home. And (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) JD |
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| jkb944t |
May 20 2016, 05:52 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 464 Joined: 17-January 05 From: Canton, OH Member No.: 3,459 Region Association: None |
Welcome! I got my SST fuel lines from a member (Rotary'14) on this board recently and I was very happy with his product. Quick delivery, good price and very helpful advice!
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| 76-914 |
May 20 2016, 08:47 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,700 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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| whitetwinturbo |
May 20 2016, 02:18 PM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) .........check the longs and hell hole post haste!
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| Rathguten |
May 21 2016, 06:12 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-May 16 From: Hialeah,FL Member No.: 20,003 Region Association: None |
Well the weather didn't cooperate today and it rained all afternoon so I didn't get to do anything on the car. However, I did get curious about all the receipts and decided to add them up. The total maintenance and repairs on the car for first ten years was $5,571.33, which is close to the original cost of the car. From there I kept adding the receipts and the grand total up up to 2009, which is where the trail ends is $31,949.57! Granted it does include an engine rebuild in 1996, but I was surprised at how much was spent over the years. Then again, I'm pretty frugal and do everything myself, so maybe that's a bargain. I lost count of how many A/C related repairs there were. "AC topped off" was on the vast majority of the receipts. Also found a recall letter dated July 12, 1977 from VWoA related to possible damage as a result of water runoff from the battery.
I like the idea about buying a "kit" to replace the fuel lines. I know that feeling of needing one of everything and would like to get it all done in one shot. I was also reading about relocating the fuel pump to the front, so that is on my to do list as well. I just want to get it running before I get too deep into it financially as I need to stay focused on my 1950 VW. My idea/hope/desire is to have the '50 ready for HO next year and that is going to take lots of attention and money. I must admit that I thought about selling the car when I first got it as I just have too many cars to keep up with. But as happens to me so often, the more I work on it, look at it and read about it, the more attached I get. So I decided to keep it. Just please don't tell my wife. I'm great at buying, but boy do I have a hard time selling. |
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| steuspeed |
May 22 2016, 02:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,010 Joined: 12-July 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 13,308 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You'll fit right in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
Check out the Squarsche build: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...mp;hl=squarsche Here is my silver 73 2.0. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| Rathguten |
Jun 7 2016, 05:47 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 17-May 16 From: Hialeah,FL Member No.: 20,003 Region Association: None |
Well I finally finished my '60 ragtop type 1 and had some time to work on my 914. The fuel tank was in really rough shape, with heavy sludge and some pin holes on the areas that rest on the felt pads. Fortunately, I was able to source a solid replacement for only $48, which I installed along with new rubber lines. The fuel pump was also full of sludge, so I took it apart and cleaned it. It seemed to work, but doesn't appear to develop the kind of pressure necessary. The pump is the type with the three ports which is apparently the most expensive one. Since I'm just trying to get the car running, I'm hoping to be able to use an alternate pump. Seeing as the tank and pump where so full of sludge, I decided to pull the injectors out for a look. They too appear dirty and the seals are cracked. So I have a couple of questions:
1) I saw a replacement pump on the Autoatlanta site which includes the filter for $75. Does anyone have any experience with this pump? 2) injectors for the 2.0 are expensive, with new ones at $500 a set or $300 for rebuilt ones. I've seen some rebuilding services on line at around $20 per injector. Can anyone make any recommendations? I would prefer someone that can install the correct rubber elbow. Thanks! |
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| 914_teener |
Jun 7 2016, 06:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,264 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Try Witchhunter for the injectors.
Just use the fuel injection hose for the elbows and use the FI fuel clamps . Get the Viton lined FI hose....I forgot the part number....it is rated to use the E90 fuel...Ethanol. Search here for the fuel line type. Avoid Auto Atlanta unless you want induced frustration. |
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| rick 918-S |
Jun 7 2016, 08:46 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,948 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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