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> Strong gas smell in 914 post driving in garage, Determining why such a strong gasoline smell
dlloyd2691
post Aug 10 2016, 11:12 PM
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Hello everyone. I'm a new owner of a 1975 914 1.8l (pictures shortly) with 75,000 miles. It was converted professionally to dual carbs from the original bosch fuel injection system. The car drives well but have noticed that when I park it in the garage after driving that a very strong gas smell lingers for days. I don't see any fuel leak. Is there a charcoal filter I've missed that needs replacing or can anyone recommend some items to check.

Pictures soon as I start the restore this winter, I'm a restore newbie so it should be painfully fun.

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post Aug 11 2016, 12:32 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) and the madness that goes when you buy these neat old cars.
Start with the filter neck seal then the gas cap seal,they don't last for ever,cheap enough to buy,then move on to the lines that exit the tank filler to the charcoal canister on the drivers side there and then go on from there,pretty sure your car has the canister,mine didn't.

Good luck you will get there,others on here will have other helpful tips also.
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post Aug 11 2016, 12:43 AM
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75, so your filter is up front, check the hoses and see if they are moist. The ethanol eats the older style hoses. You will want to check these out through the inspection panel wit the fuel pump mounted to it at the rear of the spare tire. Remove the panel and reach in to feel the hoses. You will know pretty quickly if this is the problem as the gas small will get stronger when you open the panel.
That and the other seals in the gas cap, and vent tank as common.
Welcome to the fun! At least it's a car you can do most of the work yourself on.
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post Aug 11 2016, 06:06 AM
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Don't forget the fuel line in the transmission tunnel!
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post Aug 11 2016, 06:15 AM
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And don't over fill, gas expands into the charcoal canister. Best, Mark
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post Aug 11 2016, 07:25 AM
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Your most likely culprit is the hoses on the bottom of the tank. They are cloth covered hoses that breakdown with ethanol fuel use. The gas will seep through the deteriorated rubber and the cloth covering. Remove the inspection panel from beneath the car and look up through the round hole at the hoses. If they are wet you've found your smell.
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post Aug 11 2016, 07:43 AM
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It's possible the small line from the canister to the tank vent is wide open. The gas smell is not uncommon with cars switched to carbs. More so the norm. How do factory 6s deal with fume draw off and not have wide open vacuum lines?
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post Aug 11 2016, 09:22 AM
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post Aug 11 2016, 10:18 AM
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I have also found that penetrations drilled into the bulkhead between the passenger compartment by previous owners have a lot to do with gas smells in the cabin. Over the years mine had a handful of screw holes as well as one big hole in the middle where some dunce tried to mount a middle speaker and then removed it. it was like having the gas tank inside the car....
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post Aug 11 2016, 12:23 PM
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"Switched to carbs". That's most likely the cause right there...

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post Aug 11 2016, 12:52 PM
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I had a strong gas smell when I got my 914. It had original lines and the 3 original seals on the gas tank. I went through and replaced all the rubber lines, seals and hooked back up all the lines to the charcoal tank. The smell is now very faint.
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post Aug 11 2016, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Aug 11 2016, 02:43 AM) *

75, so your filter is up front, check the hoses and see if they are moist. The ethanol eats the older style hoses. You will want to check these out through the inspection panel wit the fuel pump mounted to it at the rear of the spare tire. Remove the panel and reach in to feel the hoses. You will know pretty quickly if this is the problem as the gas small will get stronger when you open the panel.
That and the other seals in the gas cap, and vent tank as common.
Welcome to the fun! At least it's a car you can do most of the work yourself on.


Thanks Mikey, will do that this weekend.
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post Aug 12 2016, 05:45 AM
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Installed in the garage,a decent way to protect the house.
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post Aug 12 2016, 06:47 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) One of the many reasons I like the factory FI setup. But really it is probably an old line or a disconnected line from the carb conversion. Best wishes and have fun.
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post Aug 12 2016, 09:32 AM
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Carbs are vented to the atmosphere, you’ll always get a little bit of a smell. What you are willing to tolerate is up to you. As others have stated, one of the reasons a properly maintained FI system is nice.
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post Aug 12 2016, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Aug 11 2016, 06:25 AM) *

Your most likely culprit is the hoses on the bottom of the tank. They are cloth covered hoses that breakdown with ethanol fuel use. The gas will seep through the deteriorated rubber and the cloth covering. Remove the inspection panel from beneath the car and look up through the round hole at the hoses. If they are wet you've found your smell.



Even if you DON't expose them to ethanol... these cars are now ancient, and rubber is only good for max 20 years.

Drain your tank and remove it. Replace ALL fuel hoses and GERMAN fuel line (NOT AMERICAN). Use DOUBLE fuel line clamps not Hose Clamps.

Total parts cost.. under $80.
Benefits:

House won't burn down

Car won't burn down.
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post Aug 12 2016, 10:54 PM
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The left over fuel in the carb bowls evaporates into the atmosphere ( read: your garage). The MFI cars have closed systems and do not vent into the air like carbs. I have had MFI and CIS 911s and never experienced a strong gas smell until I brought home my MFI 914 converted to Carbs. Since we have a dog door into th garage, the gas odor was coming into the house which was a big no Bueno.

I installed an exhaust fan in the wall of the garage bay where the 914 lives which pretty much runs 24X7. No gas odor in the house and only mild smell in the garage.

You might need to do the same or convert back. It unfortunately is the nature of the carbed beast.
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post Nov 7 2016, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Aug 11 2016, 12:23 PM) *

"Switched to carbs". That's most likely the cause right there...

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No pun but care to expand on that?
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post Nov 7 2016, 10:09 PM
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Many carb conversions on 914s wind up with fuel odors. Causes vary, but if you want to eliminate the odors you have to do a lot more work than most people who are just "switching to carbs" are likely to do.

You need to deal with the evap system and/or fuel tank ventilation, you need a good air-cleaner setup, and so on.

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post Nov 7 2016, 10:59 PM
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When my car got converted to carb by a "professional garage", they forgot to close the fuel return line. I had a strong gas smell and since gas evaporates fairly quickly, I did not notice it was leaking until I had a buddy check it out. I have a 75 as well.
Just sharing my first experience.

Good luck and be safe.
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