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| Coondog |
 Nov 18 2016, 02:34 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California 
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Pulled the plug today and purchased a 1986 3.2 motor. 114,000 miles. Will have motor gone through and start the process of getting everything I need for a smooth install. Hope to be done by the Route 66 run.
Got my inspiration from MoveQik, his car and 3.2 install is a work of art.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| mb911 |
Nov 18 2016, 03:04 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,903 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(Coondog @ Nov 18 2016, 12:34 PM)  Pulled the plug today and purchased a 1986 3.2 motor. 114,000 miles. Will have motor gone through and start the process of getting everything I need for a smooth install. Hope to be done by the Route 66 run. Got my inspiration from MoveQik, his car and 3.2 install is a work of art.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Congrats.. It will be well worth it. |
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| Steve |
Nov 18 2016, 07:55 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,619 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California
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Congrats!!! Love my 3.2
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| ConeDodger |
Nov 18 2016, 08:12 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,622 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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Love mine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Did you get to see the motor run? Since it's out, at a minimum you should reseal it and set the valves. Common problems are valve guides and if you saw it run, you'd know if it smokes... they can also pull head studs but far less common than the 2.7 and less often than the 3.0... What are 3.2 motors going for these days? I heard in the $15K range? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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| Coondog |
Nov 18 2016, 08:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 18 2016, 06:12 PM) Love mine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Did you get to see the motor run? Since it's out, at a minimum you should reseal it and set the valves. Common problems are valve guides and if you saw it run, you'd know if it smokes... they can also pull head studs but far less common than the 2.7 and less often than the 3.0... What are 3.2 motors going for these days? I heard in the $15K range? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Picked it up for 8.5K. Includes all fuel injection components and Elec including tach. Motor is being rebuilt by Patrick motorsports. I know there not the cheapest but they are one of the best. |
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| Rand |
Nov 18 2016, 08:36 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
I know, sacrilege, but dang, doesn't an LS engine compute better now?
Power, weight, cost. Do the math. |
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| Coondog |
Nov 18 2016, 08:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Rand @ Nov 18 2016, 06:36 PM) I know, sacrilege, but dang, doesn't an LS engine compute better now? Power, weight, cost. Do the math. I have been a fan of Renagade Hybrids for 20 plus years. I spent some time at there shop last year and was leaning in that direction. I can't believe I am saying this but a 300 plus HP 914 sounds like a blast but I want to relax while driving and not feel like a Lion tamer every time i get in it........FUCH I am getting old.... As I am already stupid upside down in this car 5 lug/911 suspension etc.ect.ect I decided to stay on the Porsche track and if ever the time comes to sell at least i have a motor that's not a dime a dozen..... Also Patrick is 10K cheaper then Renagades quote for a turn key job..... |
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| mepstein |
Nov 18 2016, 08:58 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,325 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Rand @ Nov 18 2016, 09:36 PM) I know, sacrilege, but dang, doesn't an LS engine compute better now? Power, weight, cost. Do the math. The math makes sense but it looses something when you put in something other than an air cooled Porsche engine. I don't mean that in a bad way but if it was just about the money and making sense, we would just drive modern cars. |
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| Catorse |
Nov 18 2016, 09:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 27-August 15 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 19,106 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Rand @ Nov 18 2016, 06:36 PM) I know, sacrilege, but dang, doesn't an LS engine compute better now? Power, weight, cost. Do the math. It's not "sacrilege" It's just a friggin car. Having said that, there are very few things as sweet as a nice Porsche flat 6. The chevy doesn't do it for me, even though it is in many respects a superior engine. |
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| Rand |
Nov 18 2016, 09:42 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Just throwing out thoughts. Truth is, I we all want a Porsche six. But cost/performance ratio makes us consider other options. Considering cost and weight, sadly, no Porsche engine can compare to GM's LS powerplants. I want a Porsche 6. But when does want for something overpower what makes monetary sense?
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| Steve |
Nov 18 2016, 11:38 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,619 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Coondog @ Nov 18 2016, 06:51 PM) QUOTE(Rand @ Nov 18 2016, 06:36 PM) I know, sacrilege, but dang, doesn't an LS engine compute better now? Power, weight, cost. Do the math. I have been a fan of Renagade Hybrids for 20 plus years. I spent some time at there shop last year and was leaning in that direction. I can't believe I am saying this but a 300 plus HP 914 sounds like a blast but I want to relax while driving and not feel like a Lion tamer every time i get in it........FUCH I am getting old.... As I am already stupid upside down in this car 5 lug/911 suspension etc.ect.ect I decided to stay on the Porsche track and if ever the time comes to sell at least i have a motor that's not a dime a dozen..... Also Patrick is 10K cheaper then Renagades quote for a turn key job..... I resemble that remark.... I'm 56 and the 3.2 with matching 915 gear box is an awesome cruiser. Lots of fun, but also a relaxing cruiser with tons of torque. My previous 2.7 with webers and 901 gear box, was not as fast, but was faster reving and more obnoxious. The 3.2 with stock injection is a welcome change, but I miss the sound of the webers on the 2.7, but I don't miss the hastle. |
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| thelogo |
Nov 18 2016, 11:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Saying that the LS is a superior engine is correct as far as
Output But how about center of gravity that is a trademark of these cars Just saying if zuffenhausen wanted a v6 v8 etc In there rear engine mid engine cars they would have built em already (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) |
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| matthepcat |
Nov 19 2016, 12:00 AM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
I love a sweet sounding 6, but sadly it's becoming a rich mans quest....
My last 6 engine 914 sounded sweeeet... but the cash was worth more than the sound. |
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| Steve |
Nov 19 2016, 12:05 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,619 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California
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Um the 918 is also a v8. The 918 is also not an old school push rod motor. I also like the v8 914's too. Reminds me of a budget Pantera. Wish I had the space and could afford both. Since I was a kid I always wanted a 916. The 3.2 with 916 trans is the closest I will ever come to one and arguably my car is a better than a 916.
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| falcor75 |
Nov 19 2016, 01:39 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,579 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 19 2016, 03:58 AM) QUOTE(Rand @ Nov 18 2016, 09:36 PM) I know, sacrilege, but dang, doesn't an LS engine compute better now? Power, weight, cost. Do the math. The math makes sense but it looses something when you put in something other than an air cooled Porsche engine. I don't mean that in a bad way but if it was just about the money and making sense, we would just drive modern cars. I agree, its just not the same thing anymore... Plus I dont care much for the V8 sound, flat 6, inline 6 or straight 5's do it for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| mgp4591 |
Nov 19 2016, 02:36 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,384 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region
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QUOTE(falcor75 @ Nov 19 2016, 12:39 AM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 19 2016, 03:58 AM) QUOTE(Rand @ Nov 18 2016, 09:36 PM) I know, sacrilege, but dang, doesn't an LS engine compute better now? Power, weight, cost. Do the math. The math makes sense but it looses something when you put in something other than an air cooled Porsche engine. I don't mean that in a bad way but if it was just about the money and making sense, we would just drive modern cars. I agree, its just not the same thing anymore... Plus I dont care much for the V8 sound, flat 6, inline 6 or straight 5's do it for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's absolutely not the same thing anymore - it's a hybrid that when it's prepared properly is a blast to drive and ride in! A lot of us here in the States grew up with V8s singing in our ears, driving our butts into the seat backs while listening to the latest rock with our girls by our sides. It's a throwback sound in a different chassis that handles SO much better that our old musclecars... I think it's an American thing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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| Cairo94507 |
Nov 19 2016, 07:46 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,842 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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Coondog - Congratulations on your 3,2 purchase. PMS building the motor has got to have you excited too. Please see if they can take progress photos of their build to send to you to post so we can all enjoy what I know will be an exceptional engine build. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| IronHillRestorations |
Nov 19 2016, 08:02 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,732 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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Not the cheapest option, but the best choice for the long term. You'll love it! Be sure to wear some "Depends" for that first drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| 914dave |
Nov 19 2016, 01:07 PM
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914 Addict Group: Members Posts: 706 Joined: 19-October 03 From: Willow Grove Pa. Member No.: 1,262 Region Association: North East States 
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I'm right there with ya. Finishing up the detailing for the install. Will back it up with a 915.
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| Cairo94507 |
Nov 19 2016, 02:08 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,842 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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914dave - Sweet! You're going to address the rust on that pulley, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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