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Seam sealer, Recommendations |
trojanhorsepower |
Jan 13 2017, 07:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 861 Joined: 21-September 03 From: Marion, NC Member No.: 1,179 Region Association: None |
Whats the word on the street? I think I am close to needing some, but there are a few options.....
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amfab |
Jan 13 2017, 09:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 393 Joined: 17-May 16 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 20,004 Region Association: None |
Man, I have been reading reviews for the last few days for a clue. So many opinions. Most seem to agree that the 2K stuff outperforms. Finally today I gave up and I bought a tube of 2k SEM 40477 Heavy Bodied White Seam Sealer to try. Im hoping for the best and that the extra money is worth it.
-Andrew |
KeithVonLaws |
Jan 13 2017, 09:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 19-July 16 From: Napoleon , Ohio 43545 Member No.: 20,205 Region Association: North East States |
Ive always had better luck with seam sealer by warming it up to get it a little thinner.
It is easier to work with.... especially this time of year... |
Krieger |
Jan 14 2017, 12:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,723 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
Get the 3M Ultrapro auto body sealant. Tan color. The clear is just okay. The regular tan stuff is amazing. It comes in a tube and sticks really well, very durable and no issues with reasonably hot areas of car. I have found many other uses for this stuff on my car.
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mzalanka |
Jan 14 2017, 02:17 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 11-July 11 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 13,300 Region Association: None |
Evercoat brushable seam sealer in the quart can.
You use a gloved finger to apply along welded panels, etc. Dries quick & firm. Near impossible to remove. Ruined many a wire brush trying to fix an error. Obviously not OEM (not that that was neat & tidy), but Far superior to FLAPS caulk-style options. |
KeithVonLaws |
Jan 14 2017, 04:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 19-July 16 From: Napoleon , Ohio 43545 Member No.: 20,205 Region Association: North East States |
One other 3M product I have used if Body Shootz.... you use a gun to spray it . its is a paintable undercoating. Super product...
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jmitro |
Jan 14 2017, 09:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 23-July 15 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 18,986 Region Association: None |
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Front yard mechanic |
Jan 14 2017, 09:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 23-July 15 From: New Mexico Member No.: 18,984 Region Association: None |
My vote is none! I like the clean seams
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cary |
Jan 14 2017, 09:42 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
+1 on the Evercoat. I like it better than the 3m.
The Evercoat can seems to hold up better than the 3m. I apply it with one those little brushes at HF cut down to about an inch long. And after long periods on non use the texture stays true to form. Another thing to consider is whether the product is for over paint or direct to metal (DTM). Most say right on the face of the product. Seems that most of the restoration shops are using products from the FUSOR line. http://www.lord.com/products-and-solutions...adhesive-(slow) |
trojanhorsepower |
Jan 14 2017, 04:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 861 Joined: 21-September 03 From: Marion, NC Member No.: 1,179 Region Association: None |
Thanks all. I thought the 2k would be the best, but the little I have read said it was hard to work with and dries too fast. I will pick up some Evercoat.
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Rand |
Jan 14 2017, 05:11 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
I've seen more problems with seam sealer than help. It traps and hides moisture. If you have clean connections and paint it, you can see what's happening. If you cover over with gloop, you have no idea what's developing under there. Obviously it depends on your build.
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bbrock |
Apr 12 2017, 01:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Reviving this thread to ask a couple more questions.
1. On a complete resto, should I remove all of the original sealer, even in areas where it is in good shape and no apparent rust? 2. Is there an affordable, sprayable sealer that could mimic the factory look without sacrificing protection? You have to hand it to that original sealer. It fights like a tiger to stay on the car and does and excellent job of promoting rust. But leaving seams exposed to trap moisture and crud seems like asking for trouble. I think there is a reason cars continue to be manufactured with copious seam sealer applied. Any neat tricks for removing that old stuff? So far I've found heat, elbow grease, and a healthy dose of cursing works best. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
mepstein |
Apr 12 2017, 02:13 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,305 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Reviving this thread to ask a couple more questions. 1. On a complete resto, should I remove all of the original sealer, even in areas where it is in good shape and no apparent rust? 2. Is there an affordable, sprayable sealer that could mimic the factory look without sacrificing protection? You have to hand it to that original sealer. It fights like a tiger to stay on the car and does and excellent job of promoting rust. But leaving seams exposed to trap moisture and crud seems like asking for trouble. I think there is a reason cars continue to be manufactured with copious seam sealer applied. Any neat tricks for removing that old stuff? So far I've found heat, elbow grease, and a healthy dose of cursing works best. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) A pneumatic needle scaler works well in the areas it's not too thick. Gets it down to bare metal. |
mgphoto |
Apr 12 2017, 03:16 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
Wurth sprayable, get the pneumatic gun. To remove get the Wurth DBS3600, get off as much off as you can.
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bbrock |
Apr 12 2017, 10:20 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks guys. I think I'll give the needle scaler a go. It's not everyday I learn about a new tool. The Wurth DBS3600 is a little spendy for a one project hobby tool. But the Wurth sprayable and pneumatic gun is doable. I don't know why it matters since I don't plan to show this thing, but I like the idea of leaving the car looking factory fresh after I've worked on it.
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aggiezig |
Apr 12 2017, 11:36 PM
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Porsche Wannabe Group: Members Posts: 319 Joined: 13-January 16 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 19,557 Region Association: Southern California |
Depending on where you're trying to remove it, I've had great luck with a big, gnarly wire wheel on a 4.5" angle grinder. One of those nasty twisted ones. Heat from a torch or heat gun seems to help if you're scraping... should probably wear a mask though because it sure smells funny once it's caught on fire.
On another note, I haven't used it but I've read good reviews for both the brushable and the tubes of Eastwood seam sealer. Will likely go that route myself. |
mgphoto |
Apr 13 2017, 01:48 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks guys. I think I'll give the needle scaler a go. It's not everyday I learn about a new tool. The Wurth DBS3600 is a little spendy for a one project hobby tool. But the Wurth sprayable and pneumatic gun is doable. I don't know why it matters since I don't plan to show this thing, but I like the idea of leaving the car looking factory fresh after I've worked on it. Wurth and Fix a Dent have the same product, FaD is cheeper, they remove paint, rust, seam sealer and undercoat without hurting the metal and leave a good paint key, the trick is without producing heat, the death nell for sheetmetal. This is the area not to scrimp, especially doing it your self, wirewheels are no match for the aggresive wheel, (they can be sharpened to reuse), it'll save you a LOT of time. Find the replacement "belts" on ebay, all the same quality, look for price. Just saying. Mike heater tube from engine compartment. |
burton73 |
Apr 13 2017, 04:00 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,538 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
Brent,
I will give you some ideas on what to use. If you use air tools you will need a good compressor that flows a lot of air. I have a true 5 HP with 80 gal tank that flows a lot of air at working pressure. I used a combination of air tools. Shown are my box and the tools and different heads. It took a lot of them but it got off the undercoating and the balance of paint after I used a water base paint remover. If you use a water base paint remover on your car only do small areas and cover it with cellophane wrap so it will not evaporate to fast. The needle tool is very hard on the hands. Green wheel for big areas, air tool with small 3/M type red colored 3 in pads that screwed into the air tool. I bought 50 at a time on eBay. After my car was done to what I thought was good Eric (P.M.B) sent it out for media blasting Bob B |
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