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> 911 Front suspension is goofed help!, threads stripped on strut cartridge retainer
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post Jul 16 2017, 05:03 PM
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Ok so, i had a click from the front end of my car, i expected it to be the balljoints because their trash. come to find out the thing u screw in to retain the shock came off ( i did tighten the shift out of it before i installed it) and my newer koni shock has a hole rubbed in it and leaked all of its fluid. meanwhile the real killer is i cant rescrew the retainer back in because the threads on the tube thing are rubbed flat. My question is do i try to get the biggest tap ive ever seen or do i have to buy a whole new knuckle:( ?
The real killer is im moving to sacramento in two weeks and im driving the 914 down there! help!
pm me if u got a drive side 911s koni strut/ knuckle thing ur willing to sellAttached Image
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post Jul 16 2017, 05:18 PM
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Is it actually a 911 strut ? How far apart are the caliper bolts ?
You must know this to get the matching strut. Get the retaining collar too.
If it's a 4 cyl. I think any standard strut will do.
Don't waste time trying to repair your parts.
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post Jul 16 2017, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Jul 16 2017, 04:18 PM) *

Is it actually a 911 strut ? How far apart are the caliper bolts ?
You must know this to get the matching strut. Get the retaining collar too.
If it's a 4 cyl. I think any standard strut will do.
Don't waste time trying to repair your parts.

its a 1972 911 s koni strut it has 5 lugs and 3.5" caliper spacing i have the boxster caliper adapters installed
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post Jul 16 2017, 05:34 PM
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...one of our member hoarders' in the Midwest should be able to help! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jul 16 2017, 06:28 PM
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Early 911 Koni Reds with 3.5 spacing are rare items. Which ball joint does it take early or late?
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post Jul 16 2017, 06:37 PM
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Early 911 Koni Reds with 3.5 spacing are rare items. Which ball joint does it take early or late?
i don't know what are the differences
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post Jul 16 2017, 07:01 PM
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Early 911 Koni Reds with 3.5 spacing are rare items. Which ball joint does it take early or late?
i don't know what are the differences

Early uses a pinch bolt and has a spit collar to hold the ball joint. Late uses a cotter pin style wedge bolt and is not split.
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post Jul 16 2017, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(914Sixer @ Jul 16 2017, 05:28 PM) *

Early 911 Koni Reds with 3.5 spacing are rare items. Which ball joint does it take early or late?
i don't know what are the differences

Early uses a pinch bolt and has a spit collar to hold the ball joint. Late uses a cotter pin style wedge bolt and is not split.

it isn't split its solid
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post Jul 16 2017, 07:08 PM
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Early 911 Koni Reds with 3.5 spacing are rare items. Which ball joint does it take early or late?
i don't know what are the differences


One version is split at the bottom with a through bolt that grips the ball joint.
The other version uses a wedge shaped threaded shaft with a nut to secure the ball joint.
Koni S struts are precious.
You're in for a hard search.
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post Jul 16 2017, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(tazz9924 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:37 PM) *

QUOTE(914Sixer @ Jul 16 2017, 05:28 PM) *

Early 911 Koni Reds with 3.5 spacing are rare items. Which ball joint does it take early or late?
i don't know what are the differences

Early uses a pinch bolt and has a spit collar to hold the ball joint. Late uses a cotter pin style wedge bolt and is not split.

it isn't split its solid

Late is considered to be better. I would place a wtb on pelican. That's probably the largest pool off 911 owners. I did see someone selling just one Kony a little while ago. I don't remember what side.

Here you go - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...ront-strut.html

I think it's a driver side.
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post Jul 16 2017, 07:20 PM
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Hold on a minute here.....
Please post a picture of the retainer that goes into that strut.
Original Konis are not insert struts. They are serviceable units.
Are there Koni markings on the strut ?
I can attach a pic if necessary.
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post Jul 16 2017, 07:32 PM
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...or does it say BOGE??? Scratch that - my retaining nut threads are on the outside. Darn.

Tony

PS: Sorry that happened to you! I hope the move goes well despite these hassles!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jul 16 2017, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(Cracker @ Jul 16 2017, 06:32 PM) *

...or does it say BOGE???

Tony

PS: Sorry that happened - that sucks!

From what i remember it say koni heavy steering or something like that
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...or does it say BOGE???

Tony

PS: Sorry that happened - that sucks!

If it's a Boge, I probably have one.
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this is a photo of it when installedAttached Image
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post Jul 16 2017, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(tazz9924 @ Jul 16 2017, 09:35 PM) *

QUOTE(Cracker @ Jul 16 2017, 06:32 PM) *

...or does it say BOGE???

Tony

PS: Sorry that happened - that sucks!

From what i remember it say koni heavy steering or something like that


The stamped 'heavy turn' has an arrow that indicates the direction to turn the shaft to
set the strut to a heavier 'feel'
The other direction would be a 'softer' setting.
I'm pretty sure your strut is a Koni brand replacement. It will accept Boge, Bilstein or Koni inserts. You did say that your insert was loose ...right ?
Konis as original optional equipment on a 911 would have the Porsche symbol and a Porsche part number stamped in.
901 341 079 10


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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Jul 16 2017, 06:57 PM) *

QUOTE(tazz9924 @ Jul 16 2017, 09:35 PM) *

QUOTE(Cracker @ Jul 16 2017, 06:32 PM) *

...or does it say BOGE???

Tony

PS: Sorry that happened - that sucks!

From what i remember it say koni heavy steering or something like that


The stamped 'heavy turn' has an arrow that indicates the direction to turn the shaft to
set the strut to a heavier 'feel'
The other direction would be a 'softer' setting.
I'm pretty sure your strut is a Koni brand replacement. It will accept Boge, Bilstein or Koni inserts. You did say that your insert was loose ...right ?
Konis as original optional equipment on a 911 would have the Porsche symbol and a Porsche part number stamped in.
901 341 079 10

Insert fit perfect, the piece that keeps the strut in place got loose and funked it all up
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post Jul 16 2017, 08:46 PM
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This may not be an option or good idea for you but...I have a GREAT machine shop that can fix most anything. Do you have access to one in your area? A good shop could make a new retaining nut modified to accommodate the repair. The strut tube could be cut lower (shortened) if necessary if the threads couldn't be straightened near the top. Again, maybe not a real solution but it got me thinking.

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QUOTE(Cracker @ Jul 16 2017, 07:46 PM) *

This may not be an option or good idea for you but...I have a GREAT machine shop that can fix most anything. Do you have access to one in your area? A good shop could make a new retaining nut modified to accommodate the repair. The strut tube could be cut lower (shortened) if necessary if the threads couldn't be straightened near the top. Again, maybe not a real solution but it got me thinking.

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i was thinking about it... shortening the tube isn't really a great idea but rethreading it certainly is
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suspension is part number 911 341 079 10
says made by koni and has their little triangle emblem it also says heavy turn and presumably heavy turn in german no other markings that i can see
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