Anyone in SoCal have a Celette Bench for 914s? |
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Anyone in SoCal have a Celette Bench for 914s? |
Tdskip |
Jan 6 2018, 04:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
I figure if anyone would know it would be you guys...
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Elliot Cannon |
Jan 6 2018, 04:24 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
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Tdskip |
Jan 6 2018, 04:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Well that was fast. Thank you Elliott. |
Tdskip |
Jan 6 2018, 04:41 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
I will call the shop on Monday, but how does the pricing on that work, is there a set up fee to check the cars dimensions etc. and then do you generally pay for any pushing or pulling that results if it's not true ?
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Maltese Falcon |
Jan 6 2018, 04:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,701 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
In metro L. A.
Workshop5001.com Ask for Marlon ! |
mepstein |
Jan 6 2018, 04:57 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I will call the shop on Monday, but how does the pricing on that work, is there a set up fee to check the cars dimensions etc. and then do you generally pay for any pushing or pulling that results if it's not true ? Fee for removal of suspension and then setting up on the bench. Then you decide next step based on setup results. xxxx then install suspension. Couple grand on up. |
Mueller |
Jan 6 2018, 04:59 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I will call the shop on Monday, but how does the pricing on that work, is there a set up fee to check the cars dimensions etc. and then do you generally pay for any pushing or pulling that results if it's not true ? Better off doing it yourself... https://www.pelicanparts.com/914/Parts/Body...me_dims_big.htm Setup fees alone will be over $1000 before they even measure anything I would guess. |
Tdskip |
Jan 6 2018, 05:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Thanks gentlemen. So for the sake of argument let's just call it 1500 bucks to get it on the bench, and then whatever it cost to start pushing and pulling things around.
Given that our cars have welded in fenders etc, any pushing or pulling would impact fender and hood fit, correct? |
Mueller |
Jan 6 2018, 07:44 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Thanks gentlemen. So for the sake of argument let's just call it 1500 bucks to get it on the bench, and then whatever it cost to start pushing and pulling things around. Given that our cars have welded in fenders etc, any pushing or pulling would impact fender and hood fit, correct? I would think if the car is that bent you'd see fitment problems with the hoods. |
ConeDodger |
Jan 6 2018, 08:05 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,614 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Yeaman Autobody NorCal.
Rick Ollah Minnesota. Original Customs Grand Rapids, Michigan. (He owns the 914 fixtures too) |
mepstein |
Jan 6 2018, 08:09 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks gentlemen. So for the sake of argument let's just call it 1500 bucks to get it on the bench, and then whatever it cost to start pushing and pulling things around. Given that our cars have welded in fenders etc, any pushing or pulling would impact fender and hood fit, correct? I would think if the car is that bent you'd see fitment problems with the hoods. Yes. We had a build that we couldn’t get the hood right. Put it on the bench. 1/2” shift to the right. Once it was straight, the hood fit properly. |
sithot |
Jan 7 2018, 07:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 446 Joined: 25-October 06 From: Virginia Member No.: 7,090 Region Association: None |
Around 2006 a friend had one that was "loaded". Couldn't get a whimper out of anyone.
After the 911 crazed started "interested parties" started coming out of the woodwork. I still field the occasional inquiry. "Do you still have that Celette? NO, I don't. You can rent one too: https://www.eurocarbenchsystems.com/services/rental-center/ |
Tdskip |
Jan 7 2018, 08:26 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Yes. We had a build that we couldn’t get the hood right. Put it on the bench. 1/2” shift to the right. Once it was straight, the hood fit properly. Good morning, obviously it would be a bit naive to assume getting it straight on there bench would take care of body alignment issues but you would want it pulled/pushed on the bench and finish up body alignment including checking hold for before taking it off, right? OR, is the bench time so spendy that you would need to get it on/off there ASAP? And yes, starting with an unbent car is a better ideas. |
mepstein |
Jan 7 2018, 11:43 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE Yes. We had a build that we couldn’t get the hood right. Put it on the bench. 1/2” shift to the right. Once it was straight, the hood fit properly. Good morning, obviously it would be a bit naive to assume getting it straight on there bench would take care of body alignment issues but you would want it pulled/pushed on the bench and finish up body alignment including checking hold for before taking it off, right? OR, is the bench time so spendy that you would need to get it on/off there ASAP? And yes, starting with an unbent car is a better ideas. Talk to the shop. They will be able to tell you their process. |
Tdskip |
Jan 7 2018, 11:54 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Agree, we're getting into the area of too much conjecture at this point.
Thanks for the discussion |
Mueller |
Jan 7 2018, 12:09 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Goals for car?
If it was just a weekend driver or occasional auto-x or non-competitive track car I would say overkill unless you knew the car was really tweaked. Figure most of the cars here that you see that are nice with some serious money thown into them have never been on a Celete bench. If I was doing a build that would be in the 10's of thousands of dollars then no big deal to spend the few grand in bench time. |
sixnotfour |
Jan 7 2018, 12:34 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,436 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
914350 has a shop and a decent checking fixture for 914's Auto Art Customs in Torrance, CA. Attached image(s) |
Tdskip |
Jan 7 2018, 12:45 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Hi guys, thanks for the follow up and pictures. One car and considering had a high hit that pushed the hood back but has not appeared to have relocated the front suspension mounting points. That said I have found that my other cars are very sensitive to suspension geometry being bang/on, and both my 911 and 912 went on the bench when I had front end work done.
Thanks |
Tdskip |
Jan 7 2018, 12:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
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Mueller |
Jan 7 2018, 01:23 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Hi guys, thanks for the follow up and pictures. One car and considering had a high hit that pushed the hood back but has not appeared to have relocated the front suspension mounting points. That said I have found that my other cars are very sensitive to suspension geometry being bang/on, and both my 911 and 912 went on the bench when I had front end work done. Thanks Why not take the 914 to the same place? Fairly certain front uses same fixtures and they might have or can rent the rear fixtures. |
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