Side Windows Inter-changeable ?, ..early vs late |
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Side Windows Inter-changeable ?, ..early vs late |
Literati914 |
Jun 2 2018, 01:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,697 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Are the side windows inter-change between the early and late cars? Are there differences? Should I expect to just switch out the glass itself or the whole scissor mechanism.. looking for easiest obviously. Any advice, before tackleing the job ? Thanks.
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mepstein |
Jun 2 2018, 01:05 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Nope. Totally different. Nothing can be interchanged.
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jun 2 2018, 01:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,092 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
no totally different would have to cut a piece out of the late door shell and weld it in then use late window regulator front and rear guides and of course the window itself
No one wants to install the early mechanism into a late door but it just takes all of the above but instead of welding a piece, need to elongate some holes Are the side windows inter-change between the early and late cars? Are there differences? Should I expect to just switch out the glass itself or the whole scissor mechanism.. looking for easiest obviously. Any advice, before tackleing the job ? Thanks. |
Literati914 |
Jun 2 2018, 01:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,697 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sorry I wasn't specific - I'm talking '72 and '74... does the above still apply?
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jcd914 |
Jun 2 2018, 03:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
Sorry I wasn't specific - I'm talking '72 and '74... does the above still apply? Yes, different glass, different regulator, different window guides, different window seals, different door structure, etc.... The change was late 72 production year which is early 73 MY cars. Jim |
TravisNeff |
Jun 2 2018, 03:26 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Is there a thread on doing this conversion (from early glass to late/regulator change?) This is on my list of projects that I would like to do.
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mepstein |
Jun 2 2018, 04:17 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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mepstein |
Jun 2 2018, 04:19 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Literati914 |
Jun 2 2018, 04:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,697 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sorry I wasn't specific - I'm talking '72 and '74... does the above still apply? Yes. I lot of guys just buy later doors. Not a perfect solution because of the targa top but acceptable for many. I could just use the entire door/glass from the '74 parts car on my '72 keeper... but, umm... what's different about the targas? |
SirAndy |
Jun 2 2018, 08:17 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,854 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Sorry I wasn't specific - I'm talking '72 and '74... does the above still apply? Yes. I lot of guys just buy later doors. Not a perfect solution because of the targa top but acceptable for many.I could just use the entire door/glass from the '74 parts car on my '72 keeper... but, umm... what's different about the targas? The same time the doors changed the targa tops and their side seals changed as well. A late top won't seal right on an early car and vice versa. So, if you go with late doors on an early car, you should also get a late top and the correct seals. There's a lengthy thread here showing all the differences between early vs late tops ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
Literati914 |
Jun 2 2018, 09:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,697 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sounding like I'd be better off just finding a replacement '72 passenger window. Sounds too like finding one from a 70 and 71's would be better in keeping me from accidentally getting an early '73 window - correct? Are there any tell-tell characteristics when looking at pictures between the early and late windows?
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TravisNeff |
Jun 2 2018, 09:26 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Yes 70-72 all will work
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mepstein |
Jun 3 2018, 06:13 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Sounding like I'd be better off just finding a replacement '72 passenger window. Sounds too like finding one from a 70 and 71's would be better in keeping me from accidentally getting an early '73 window - correct? Are there any tell-tell characteristics when looking at pictures between the early and late windows? Yes. The brackets on an early window look very different than a late window. It’s very easy to tell the difference. When the early mechanism is lubed up, it works fine. Mikey has the small plastic buttons if yours are worn out. |
mlindner |
Jun 3 2018, 06:44 AM
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BeatNavy |
Jun 3 2018, 07:38 AM
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Mikey914 |
Jun 3 2018, 08:34 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,729 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Unfortunately Ive been making parts faster than Blake can get them listed. Ill have in get these up Monday and post a link.
Got these and a few other items. Probably about time for another grpup buy. Mark |
BeatNavy |
Jun 3 2018, 08:45 AM
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altitude411 |
Jun 3 2018, 09:04 AM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I have late style doors with early regulators installed on my six. I wanted crash bars in the door but early windows to fit the top. Just need to drill a couple of holes. (Just in case anyone is researching in the future) *apologize for (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) photo
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mepstein |
Jun 3 2018, 09:25 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
We've installed crash bars in early 911 doors. The metal bar is available for sale. I think we used high strength adhesive.
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mlindner |
Jun 3 2018, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,568 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
altitude, funny, I got the early doors to rid of the weight of the crash bars. Mark
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