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| EdwardBlume |
 Sep 28 2018, 07:55 AM
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914 Wizard  Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California 
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I just brought home the ABM last night from the shop just in time for Rennsport. Tried to move it into the garage for some work and the starter is grinding. Not good.
Question: with a bad starter / potential flywheel, is it OK to push start it. I only need to go about 100 miles each way.... I also have AAA. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) |
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| theer |
Sep 28 2018, 08:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 677 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States
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Pop starting with a bad starter is fine (as long as it is not stuck engaged to the flywheel. That's usually how I started my VW 412 back in my HS days. With FI, I could pop start it by myself in the length of a parking spot - forward or backward... push it out of the spot...push it back in... hop in while it's rolling.. pop the clutch... vroom-vroom. Oh and slam on the brakes.
A damaged flywheel may create an out-of-balance issue that could be bad for bearings, depending on the damage. You can view the flywheel toothed gear for damage through the porthole from underneath the car.. a bit of a PITA, but doable with a little help from someone to turn the motor by hand (take the sparkplugs out first, of course). |
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| larryM |
 Sep 28 2018, 08:42 PM
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emoze Group: Members Posts: 891 Joined: 1-January 03 From: mid- California Member No.: 65 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(EdwardBlume @ Sep 28 2018, 06:55 AM)  the starter is grinding. Not good. what do you mean by "grinding starter" ? re: push start - THEER is correct |
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| EdwardBlume |
Sep 29 2018, 06:31 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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Thanks. Much appreciated. Friday AM and it’s starting just fine.... for now....
The grinding was like missing teeth and I only hit it twice. Maybe the solinoid malfunctioned? |
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| r_towle |
Sep 29 2018, 09:07 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Heat makes the shaft expand and the little gear does not get pushed far enough. It’s a combination of a bad ground strap and a dirty starter.
Quick fix, get a long black battery cable about three feet long and go from the battery ground to the lower bolt on the starter to give it a really good ground. |
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| infraredcalvin |
Sep 29 2018, 10:21 AM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,526 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California
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Put in 5th and rock the car back and forth a bit to slightly rotate the flywheel so that the starter gear engages, remember to pull it out of gear before you try to start.
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| ConeDodger |
Sep 29 2018, 10:29 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,611 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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Do you have one of those high torque starters on it Rob?
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| EdwardBlume |
Sep 30 2018, 05:32 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 29 2018, 09:29 AM) Do you have one of those high torque starters on it Rob? Pretty sure it is. Seems to be OK now. For now. |
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