 New 914 Owner, some photos and questions |
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| scottthephotog |
 Nov 21 2018, 02:04 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 20-November 18 From: Louisville, TN Member No.: 22,667 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
Hello Everyone, Just picked up a 1973 yellow 914 the other night. Short story, previous owner had bought it a couple years back, drove it on and off, and was working on restoring the car.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-22667-1542830646.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-22667-1542830646.2.jpg) Outside looks very nice. Paint is in good condition. He had the targa top, rocker panels, bumpers, and rims all refinished. New weather stripping everywhere execpt the front targa seal. He had pulled the interior and started putting it back when he had to sell the car. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-22667-1542830646.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-22667-1542830646.4.jpg) Interior has the seats (driver side is brand new), dashboard, and that's pretty much it. The gauges have been redone and look absolutely beautiful, however the speedo sticks at zero sometimes. If you tap it, it will move to where it should be. He said the person who redid the gauges put too much grease on it? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-22667-1542830647.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-22667-1542830647.6.jpg) Engine, runs well, but he said a previous owner removed the cold start valve so it is rough at idle and starting when it is cold. After a minute or 2, it's good. Still running the original EFI, which was also cleaned about 2 years ago. New stainless steel fuel lines (no more plastic!). Transmission and clutch feel good. He checked linkage bushings in the last 2 years, and they all look good. Some oil/gunk buildup on the underside. Possibly a leaky oil cooler seal? No visible oil dripping from the underside, or puddles under the car, which is good. Very little rust as well. Small rust whole in the battery tray (top section), but no where else. Just put in new water drain lines this morning for the engine cover. Lots of extra parts. The original driver seat. A second set of bumpers. Second set of suspension parts. Almost all new interior pieces and carpet just needing to be installed. On to questions. 1. He gave me a part that he said was the cold start valve (see picture). Is that the correct part, and if so, where does it go? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-22667-1542830647.7.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-22667-1542830647.8.jpg) 2. Storing the targa top in the trunk. What way does it go? I'm having trouble getting it to fit and close the trunk all the way. 3. Speedometer gauge. Would too much grease cause the problem I described? How easy would that be to fix? Those are the questions jumping to mind currently. Thanks everyone! Look forward to joining in conversations about these fun little cars. |
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| scottthephotog |
Nov 21 2018, 02:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 20-November 18 From: Louisville, TN Member No.: 22,667 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Apologies for the super large photos. First post on the forum. Didn't realize there was no down sampling.
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| Chi-town |
Nov 21 2018, 02:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 851 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
The top goes in the trunk the same way it is on the car. The two white cups are where the front latches fit. Make sure the little rubber holders on the rear are all the way forward otherwise they keep the trunk from closing.
That piece appears to be the thermostat for the air flaps in the fan ducting to the oil cooler. Check to make sure the Speedo cable is tight at the trans and the back of the gauge. It should "click" on to the gauge |
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| seanery |
Nov 21 2018, 02:27 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,857 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
the top goes in the trunk like it goes on the car, the clamps for the windshield go into the cups in the trunk. should be white clips at one end and black rubber at the other that will lock the top in place.
oh, and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| Tdskip |
Nov 21 2018, 02:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None 
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Welcome!
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| porschetub |
Nov 21 2018, 02:55 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,065 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) wow those pics are BIG ,that part you have is the thermostat for the aircooling,you must fit that,the cold start valve is a different part all together but not dissimilar in function,don't know why someone would remove that,must run pretty rough cold...right.
Its function is to provide more air on startup and from memory the one I tested didn't stay open for long...someone correct me if I'am wrong. Go to the WTB /FS section and request a replacement,not really an expensive or rare part,plenty of great guys on here that sell quality parts. Looks like you have a good car to start with,good luck |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 21 2018, 03:05 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,232 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
you are missing fender to cowl seals and wiper caps, but super clean car congratulations, so clean that I wonder why the carpet is missing?
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 21 2018, 03:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,232 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
you also need to reinstall that thermostat for quick warmups
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| scottthephotog |
Nov 21 2018, 03:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 20-November 18 From: Louisville, TN Member No.: 22,667 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Thanks everyone for the responses.
Managed to get the targa top to fit in the trunk. Very tight fit. Thanks for responses of how it sits in. I didn't have the back far enough down. I'll double check the speedometer connections. QUOTE(porschetub @ Nov 21 2018, 02:55 PM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) wow those pics are BIG ,that part you have is the thermostat for the aircooling,you must fit that,the cold start valve is a different part all together but not dissimilar in function,don't know why someone would remove that,must run pretty rough cold...right. Its function is to provide more air on startup and from memory the one I tested didn't stay open for long...someone correct me if I'am wrong. Go to the WTB /FS section and request a replacement,not really an expensive or rare part,plenty of great guys on here that sell quality parts. Looks like you have a good car to start with,good luck Haha. Yes. Very large photos. Where does the thermostat mount? Somewhere on the fan shroud, or on the engine? I didn't think it was the cold start valve. I google the cold start valve, and it looked nothing like what I've got. Thanks for the suggestion about the WTB/FS section. I'll definitely look through that, and make a post at some point. It runs very rough at start up. Super low idle, close to stalling. If you don't catch it with the gas pedal and bring the RPM up, it does stall. After 2 minutes or so, it's good to go and runs really well. Starts well when the engine is warm. Thanks. My wife and I are super excited. She's wanted one of thses since we took a trip down to Auto Atlanta last January. QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Nov 21 2018, 03:05 PM) you are missing fender to cowl seals and wiper caps, but super clean car congratulations, so clean that I wonder why the carpet is missing? Not sure what those parts are, so I'll do some googling. Carpet is missing because he didnt' get the chance to reinstall it before he had to sell it. It was an unplanned sell. Car came with both the original and all new carpet, as well as the lower part of the dash board and original radio. I've got all those sitting in the garage, and I'll probably start installing them soon. Another interesting thing. The car had AC. He said the AC attachment was in terrible condition when he got it a couple years ago, and he pitched it. The rest of the AC components are still there and just disconnected. Thanks everyone for all the input and help! |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 21 2018, 04:03 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,232 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
also your turn signal lenses are upside down!!!
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 21 2018, 04:04 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,232 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
I would certainly reinstall the air conditioning as well as the original carpet. If the original is dirty you can get it dry cleaned. Car is too nice to modify, return to its original factory configuration!!!!
QUOTE(scottthephotog @ Nov 21 2018, 02:53 PM) Thanks everyone for the responses. Managed to get the targa top to fit in the trunk. Very tight fit. Thanks for responses of how it sits in. I didn't have the back far enough down. I'll double check the speedometer connections. QUOTE(porschetub @ Nov 21 2018, 02:55 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) wow those pics are BIG ,that part you have is the thermostat for the aircooling,you must fit that,the cold start valve is a different part all together but not dissimilar in function,don't know why someone would remove that,must run pretty rough cold...right. Its function is to provide more air on startup and from memory the one I tested didn't stay open for long...someone correct me if I'am wrong. Go to the WTB /FS section and request a replacement,not really an expensive or rare part,plenty of great guys on here that sell quality parts. Looks like you have a good car to start with,good luck Haha. Yes. Very large photos. Where does the thermostat mount? Somewhere on the fan shroud, or on the engine? I didn't think it was the cold start valve. I google the cold start valve, and it looked nothing like what I've got. Thanks for the suggestion about the WTB/FS section. I'll definitely look through that, and make a post at some point. It runs very rough at start up. Super low idle, close to stalling. If you don't catch it with the gas pedal and bring the RPM up, it does stall. After 2 minutes or so, it's good to go and runs really well. Starts well when the engine is warm. Thanks. My wife and I are super excited. She's wanted one of thses since we took a trip down to Auto Atlanta last January. QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Nov 21 2018, 03:05 PM) you are missing fender to cowl seals and wiper caps, but super clean car congratulations, so clean that I wonder why the carpet is missing? Not sure what those parts are, so I'll do some googling. Carpet is missing because he didnt' get the chance to reinstall it before he had to sell it. It was an unplanned sell. Car came with both the original and all new carpet, as well as the lower part of the dash board and original radio. I've got all those sitting in the garage, and I'll probably start installing them soon. Another interesting thing. The car had AC. He said the AC attachment was in terrible condition when he got it a couple years ago, and he pitched it. The rest of the AC components are still there and just disconnected. Thanks everyone for all the input and help! |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 21 2018, 04:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,232 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
the windshield top seal is an easy replacement, and someone has fitted a new dash from the later production as the grain is not the same as the original, but this car is so nice that it deserves careful attention, looking at the car I would believe the miles as well
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| SirAndy |
Nov 21 2018, 04:11 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Nov 21 2018, 02:03 PM) also your turn signal lenses are upside down!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Nov 21 2018, 04:13 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(scottthephotog @ Nov 21 2018, 12:27 PM) Apologies for the super large photos. First post on the forum. Didn't realize there was no down sampling. That's because you didn't upload them here, you linked them from imgur. Can't resize what's hosted on another site ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| johnhora |
Nov 21 2018, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Nov 21 2018, 03:07 PM) the windshield top seal is an easy replacement, and someone has fitted a new dash from the later production as the grain is not the same as the original, but this car is so nice that it deserves careful attention, looking at the car I would believe the miles as well George...I think maybe it's a "DashTop"plastic dash cap... isn't it?? Very nice color Scott...looks good |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 21 2018, 05:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,232 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
good comment. but does not look it to me, first, one can usually tell around the ashtray immediately, and then I know for a fact that for awhile Porsche offered a new dash for the 914 but in a dissimilar grain that they were using on the Carrera series in the late 80s. Plus it is not pillowed looking like the reskins. Hence I think it a Porsche replacement dash
QUOTE(johnhora @ Nov 21 2018, 03:51 PM) QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Nov 21 2018, 03:07 PM) the windshield top seal is an easy replacement, and someone has fitted a new dash from the later production as the grain is not the same as the original, but this car is so nice that it deserves careful attention, looking at the car I would believe the miles as well George...I think maybe it's a "DashTop"plastic dash cap... isn't it?? Very nice color Scott...looks good |
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| Literati914 |
Nov 21 2018, 09:40 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,237 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Which shade of yellow is that? Looks great. Would love to see those pics re-posted at a better sizing.
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| SO.O.C914er |
Nov 21 2018, 09:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,854 Joined: 18-July 16 From: Mission Viejo Ca Member No.: 20,199 Region Association: Southern California |
Nice pick up. I agree don’t modify it that’s excellent! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) ... Paul
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| iankarr |
Nov 21 2018, 10:31 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,595 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region
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The thermostat installs on the side of the engine, near the bottom left. If you click on the link in my signature, you'll find a video of the thermostat in action. Enjoy the car! And now would be a great time to get new targa seals from 914 rubber. Their black friday sale is always amazing. |
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| ClayPerrine |
Nov 22 2018, 07:16 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 16,542 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I am in Hurst if you want some help/advise on the car. I have been around these cars for 33 years now. We have a lot of 914 owners in the area too. |
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