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Alternative Air Conditioning? |
euro911 |
Nov 22 2018, 11:48 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,851 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Saw this on line, wondering if one of these could mounted in the front trunk and ducted into the fresh air system's vents?
Looks like it only draws about 7.5 amps at 13.5 volts (and I'm going to be installing one of Peter Newman's 160 amp alternators in the '71 914) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) https://www.banggood.com/12V-24V-Small-Car-...ur_warehouse=CN |
Larmo63 |
Nov 22 2018, 11:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
"Applicable vehicles: heavy trucks, light trucks, engineering vehicles, excavators, harvesters, double-row mini vehicles and other models."
They don't mention 914s, so you're out of luck. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) |
Chi-town |
Nov 23 2018, 12:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
You probably could but getting enough airflow through the condenser side would be hard.
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Valy |
Nov 23 2018, 02:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
This is just the evaporator. You will also need to install the compressor somewhere and route the pipes to this unit. See the pipes outlets at the bottom.
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euro911 |
Nov 23 2018, 05:31 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,851 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
This is just the evaporator. You will also need to install the compressor somewhere and route the pipes to this unit. See the pipes outlets at the bottom. That question was asked on the web page:Q : Is this a standalone air conditioner? or does it need a separate compressor? A : Hi, it is a standalone air conditioner. Answered by Elaine on November 01,2018 It's supposedly just a mini self contained unit, similar to a window air conditioner for your home. The nipples might be the high & low side ports of the system, for adding freon. |
EdwardBlume |
Nov 23 2018, 09:43 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
Do you just cut a rectangular hole in the targa top and mount it to the roof? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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euro911 |
Nov 23 2018, 10:43 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,851 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Do you just cut a rectangular hole in the targa top and mount it to the roof? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) If that's your cup of tea, have at it. I was thinking in the front trunk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
Valy |
Nov 23 2018, 10:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
This is just the evaporator. You will also need to install the compressor somewhere and route the pipes to this unit. See the pipes outlets at the bottom. That question was asked on the web page:Q : Is this a standalone air conditioner? or does it need a separate compressor? A : Hi, it is a standalone air conditioner. Answered by Elaine on November 01,2018 It's supposedly just a mini self contained unit, similar to a window air conditioner for your home. The nipples might be the high & low side ports of the system, for adding freon. Anyone can answer those questions so would not count on them. Filling ports must be at the top, not bottom. 100W power consumption will give next to nothing in cooling power. A small car AC takes about a couple of ponies so that's 750-1500W range. From the seller description on the site: Package Included: 1 X Car evaporator 1 X Accessory set I hope it helps. |
Steve |
Nov 23 2018, 01:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,606 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
It looks like you would still need a compressor and condenser
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Dave_Darling |
Nov 23 2018, 01:27 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
And a whole lot of air flow to and from the unit. Don't forget that.
Remember that any A/C system is just moving heat from one place (e.g., the inside of the cabin) to another place (hopefully the outside of the car). Sticking the condenser in an enclosed area will simply heat up that area until no more heat can be rejected into that area, at which point the A/C will do absolutely nothing. --DD |
Tdskip |
Nov 23 2018, 01:29 PM
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Just to be sure I double checked and Pep Boys confirm that it would fit.
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GeorgeRud |
Nov 23 2018, 05:42 PM
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I think the electronic compressor setup that was developed for the 911 may help with a 914 setup, but will still require cutting ventilation holes in the front trunk. I wonder if a cooler full of ice with a 12 volt fan blowing air through it might not provide some cooling to the relatively small interior? It might be an inexpensive setup that could be installed and used when needed.
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michael7810 |
Nov 23 2018, 05:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,081 Joined: 6-June 11 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 13,164 Region Association: Southwest Region |
1 word. B-kool
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euro911 |
Nov 23 2018, 07:46 PM
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Larmo63 |
Nov 23 2018, 07:52 PM
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Steve |
Nov 23 2018, 08:02 PM
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Mark Henry |
Nov 23 2018, 08:13 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
You could do an in dash install. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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euro911 |
Nov 24 2018, 02:06 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,851 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
I think the electronic compressor setup that was developed for the 911 may help with a 914 setup, but will still require cutting ventilation holes in the front trunk. I wonder if a cooler full of ice with a 12 volt fan blowing air through it might not provide some cooling to the relatively small interior? It might be an inexpensive setup that could be installed and used when needed. Yeah, George ... I think you're right that the ice chest would be a better (& less expensive) option, plus if the supply air is pulled from the cockpit, eventually it would be recirculating cooler air, thus the ice would last longer. Also, my car is white, so the temperature in the trunk would be a bit lower than if it were a darker color. |
budk |
Nov 24 2018, 09:33 AM
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Yes! It's a Bumblebee! Group: Members Posts: 678 Joined: 24-July 10 From: Hickory, PA Member No.: 11,970 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If you really want A/C why not go the route that Porsche did and install the one that the dealerships installed?
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76-914 |
Nov 24 2018, 09:53 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,507 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
There is a place in San Diego and San Antonio that will install one. I'd think with $1200 in parts it won't be cheap and that appears to be what you're looking for. IIRC, there is also a place in AZ that does this. The rotary compressors that we have now last longer, run smoother, draw less power from the engine and are cheaper to rebuild. Do it right and do it once. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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