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| bd1308 |
 Jun 20 2005, 08:26 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot  Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501  |
used to bolt fine to HEs but now they won't......went from 2.0 to 1.7 using existing setup.....do i need a real super big hammer or a drill or something to get this to work?
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| bd1308 |
Jun 20 2005, 08:27 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
it seems like the HEs are straight and true and the exhaust is slanted on each side...or mayeb its the other way around....any suggestions?
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| xsboost90 |
Jun 20 2005, 08:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 2-August 04 From: cincinnati Member No.: 2,432 |
i know when i went from my 2.0 w/ a 1.7 exhaust to a 2.0 w/ a 2.0 exhaust, the rear muffler section was different. Are you using the entire exhaust from the 1.7, or did you change something? If your using the same parts it should all still fit, but the 1.7 is thinner and sits higher than the 2.0, so the muffler is changed to offset that.
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| Mueller |
Jun 20 2005, 08:55 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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1.7 heatexchangers = 1.7 muffler
2.0 heatexchangers = 2.0 muffler you can put the 2.0 stuff on a 1.7 motor and the 1.7 stuff on a 2.0 motor |
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| bd1308 |
Jun 20 2005, 08:58 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
i have 1.8 he's and exhaust....so they wont work with my 1.7 stuff....they DID work fine with my 2.0 stuff though....but not the 1.7..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) very sad times.
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| bd1308 |
Jun 20 2005, 09:00 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
anybody local have a 1.7 setup i could purchase? he's and muffler or something....
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| Joe Bob |
Jun 20 2005, 09:00 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
A COMPLETE exhaust will fit on ANY 914....but you need EVERYTHING.......
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| TravisNeff |
Jun 20 2005, 09:03 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region
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I'm with Z on this one. You can use 1.7, 1.8, 2.0 - but you must use the complete system, no intermixing of parts. Exchangers, muffler and muffler bracket (1.7 & 1.8 brackets are the same)
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| bd1308 |
Jun 20 2005, 09:03 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
got ya man....thats what i remembered. I remember the guy saying that. but the VW guy swears its different. I guess i'll just have to tweak some things....the exhuast brace should go where....on back of HE flange or on back of exhuast flange?
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| TravisNeff |
Jun 20 2005, 09:10 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region
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the Muffler bracket/hanger goes at the flanged end and the muffler. If you have a complete matching exhaust system, there's no tweaking needed. bolt it on and go. |
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| Joe Bob |
Jun 20 2005, 09:13 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Don't fergit the NEW muffler bearing....it's a superceeded part number and NOT on the PET CD....yer VDub guy should know about it....
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| bd1308 |
Jun 20 2005, 09:19 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
is this the KaleCo bearing, so i know its a joke and not something i shoudl scratch my head over?
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| gklinger |
Jun 20 2005, 10:19 PM
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doh! Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 14-January 03 From: Tempe, AZ Member No.: 146 Region Association: Southwest Region |
and you're still listening to the "VW Guy" why...?
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| bd1308 |
Jun 20 2005, 10:22 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
i'm not listening to him...he just talks and talks and i'm like okay old man whatever...... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) today there was a 914 there..... he's got some good lookin VW-knowledgeable girl there.... |
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| Engman |
Jun 20 2005, 10:22 PM
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Zoisite Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,349 Joined: 25-March 03 From: New Albany, IN Member No.: 475  |
I have a 1.7 muffler - old but life still in it - rusty but no holes - come over and pick it up =free
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| bd1308 |
Jun 20 2005, 10:24 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
sweet i'll pm ya..... thanks pal! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
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| Dave_Darling |
Jun 21 2005, 12:02 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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Any complete exhaust setup (exchangers, muffler, muffler hanger) will bolt up to any 914. The 74 1.8 used an exhaust that is essentially the same as the 1.7 stuff; you can swap parts between the 74 1.8 and the 1.7 exhausts. The 75 1.8 used the "late" exhaust, which is drastically different than either the 1.7 or 2.0 (73-74) stuff.
Your exchangers could be tweaked, if the problem is that they don't bolt up to the heads nicely. What problem, exactly, are you having? Which parts don't bolt up to what parts? --DD |
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| bd1308 |
Jun 21 2005, 06:43 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
the exhaust flange does not bolt correctly to the HE flange...i can get one bolt in each side on....looks like they need to be tweaked in a circular fashion.
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| Mueller |
Jun 21 2005, 06:55 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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sounds strange....can you just open up the holes with a rat-tail file or a dremel? how far off are the holes? what about a smaller diameter bolt?? |
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| bd1308 |
Jun 21 2005, 08:45 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
well i jacked the car up on the HEs a bit and it worked. Sounded good when started, only running on 2 or 3 cylinders though. Joe, if you're viewing this, i need your help and will be contacting you shortly.
so far: *cyl 3/4 exhaust studs are acting up (2 arent connected and one turned on me today) *taco plate screw turned adn wont torque down (even a very small amount).....RTV will seal things up a bit till i can source another engine. I'll drive it and add oil as necessary until things get really bad. Honestly I dont really see a *TERMINAL* condition here....just a annoyance from this standpoint. |
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