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> OT: How light can you get late model, 993's, Boxster's and 996's?
nine14cats
post Jun 23 2005, 08:37 PM
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Anyone have experience or know of someone putting the late model 993, 996 and Boxster platforms on a diet?

993 = 3064 lbs

996 = 2998 lbs

Boxster = 3118 lbs

(all figures from a google search)

Let's have two numbers:

1. If you were to gut the interior and add f/g lids with a cage

2. Same as above with f/g fenders (full body mod).

Just curious..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

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post Jun 23 2005, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (nine14cats @ Jun 23 2005, 07:37 PM)
Just curious..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

now what are you doing? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)
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post Jun 23 2005, 08:49 PM
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Homework for a possible course change......

At the crossroads of continuing on with the 914 or buying a taildragger for the track....lotsa options.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)

Still got JLO for my 914 fix....track wise we know that 911's are fast....but I wonder if I "could" still be competitive with a fully prepped 911 in auto-x?

Fordahl had a 2.8L 911 that won Parade several years in a row...beating 914's...seems unlikely since I suck as a driver...but on the track it would be quick....

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post Jun 23 2005, 08:58 PM
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quoted from some widely-known source (that I forgot who wrote)
"The most important thing to any go fast car is the driver"
if you suck, get lessons. From what I hear, it makes a HUGE difference. With that being said, I have to get my car from peeing oil everywhere. No track for me....
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post Jun 23 2005, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (nine14cats @ Jun 23 2005, 07:49 PM)
Homework for a possible course change......

you've got too much money on your hands ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

wanna adopt me?
i have a green thumb (comes in handy for the yard and the garden), i can cook, clean the pool, handy with tools, heck, i can even weld!
papa? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)


on a more serious note, i'd hate to see all that money spend on the 914 go down the drain ...
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PS: but if you're selling, i'll take the engine off yer back if the price is right! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 23 2005, 09:03 PM
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hmmm....that could be an idea.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Interested in the whole enchilada?

I know you like Mexican! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)

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post Jun 23 2005, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE (nine14cats @ Jun 23 2005, 08:03 PM)
Interested in the whole enchilada?

interested? yes! but i'd have to sell my firstborn to afford that enchilada ....

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post Jun 23 2005, 09:17 PM
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Hay Bill:
Did I tell ya about the Boxster I trailered home from one of our AXs. 2004 model....short version....the oil pump fried then the motor seized.... while the dealer's guy was driving it.
Sure, he gets a new motor.....you wouldn't.

None of them water pumper motors (cept the GT2,3,turbo, cup cars ....30K for a rebuild, yada) are worth spit. Generally(IMO), big motors mean big class, big cla$$ = cup cars & such. Not to be rude, but do you wanna race or be a mobile chicane?

Were it me, I'd go to a smaller motor (2.8/3.0) & find some competition with guys I could afford to run with.....guys with a small fortune who are determined to make it smaller. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 23 2005, 09:34 PM
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Your Boxster weight is off, New Boxsters range from 2850 to 2950 lbs. Earlier models were even less I believe.

Its pretty easy to shed weight from the Boxster. Remove convertible top mechanism, go with fiberglass or carbon fiber body panels and hoods, Lightweight headers and exhaust, lose all the airbags and interior crap, lightweight wheels, I think coilovers are lighter as well, lose the electronic seats in favor of GT3 or lightweight race seats

And dont forget you can drop a 3.4 liter engine in the Boxster.

Boxster racing board is a good resource. http://www.iq.dynip.com/~racing/index.cgi

Dont forget about the new Cayman. Its what the boxster should have been originally.
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post Jun 23 2005, 09:36 PM
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As soon as I read about the Cayman, I tried to figure how I could get one to put on the track.
Then I figured I could save a lot of money by buying a cheap used Boxster, gut it and put in a good motor.
I'm going to see how far I can push the 914 before I do anything, but at some point I'd like to show the tail draggers they can be beat by a midengine and I'm not sure the 914 is gonna do it. I ran one event in my friends 911 and I was faster than in my 914 even though he runs in a near stock class. I don't know what the damn secret is with the 911 but it pisses me off. Vendettas are expensive! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif)
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post Jun 23 2005, 09:51 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/barf.gif) ok, you guys,,,,,,I'm going to need some help restraining Billy from buying a 911.... He said it best..." this is worse than CRACK!!" I"m scoping out the house for good places to hide the keyboard.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving-girl.gif)
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post Jun 23 2005, 09:53 PM
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It's war in the Pickering household!....Doris wants to stay 914....I say nuke it from orbit and buy a 993!

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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif) he's just jealous that I was catching up to him in autocrossing, so now he wants to get a track car.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rocking nana.gif)
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post Jun 23 2005, 09:58 PM
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Ouch!!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif)

Hmmm...she has gotten faster and faster.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving-girl.gif)
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post Jun 23 2005, 10:03 PM
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Hey JP,

What do you think of the pre varioram 993's? I've got a spare 993 motor, so I'm set for years of track use if I get one. Just add a cage, a few other goodies and voila....track car!

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post Jun 23 2005, 10:06 PM
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sit back and enjoy the show! (IMG:http://forums.emuparadise.org/smilies/lurk.gif)
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post Jun 23 2005, 10:11 PM
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Adding fuel to the fire (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif)

Some place in the last week or so I saw an ad that this car is for sale.
I can't remember where it was listed. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)


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post Jun 23 2005, 10:19 PM
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Hi John,

I'm kind partial to this one....

kinda looks like our old 914 that Felix has now....


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last one...

I could have fun in this thing!


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