OT: How light can you get late model, 993's, Boxster's and 996's? |
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OT: How light can you get late model, 993's, Boxster's and 996's? |
nine14cats |
Jun 23 2005, 08:37 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Anyone have experience or know of someone putting the late model 993, 996 and Boxster platforms on a diet?
993 = 3064 lbs 996 = 2998 lbs Boxster = 3118 lbs (all figures from a google search) Let's have two numbers: 1. If you were to gut the interior and add f/g lids with a cage 2. Same as above with f/g fenders (full body mod). Just curious..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) Thanks, Bill P. |
SirAndy |
Jun 23 2005, 08:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
now what are you doing? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) |
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nine14cats |
Jun 23 2005, 08:49 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Homework for a possible course change......
At the crossroads of continuing on with the 914 or buying a taildragger for the track....lotsa options.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Still got JLO for my 914 fix....track wise we know that 911's are fast....but I wonder if I "could" still be competitive with a fully prepped 911 in auto-x? Fordahl had a 2.8L 911 that won Parade several years in a row...beating 914's...seems unlikely since I suck as a driver...but on the track it would be quick.... Bill P. |
bd1308 |
Jun 23 2005, 08:58 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
quoted from some widely-known source (that I forgot who wrote)
"The most important thing to any go fast car is the driver" if you suck, get lessons. From what I hear, it makes a HUGE difference. With that being said, I have to get my car from peeing oil everywhere. No track for me.... |
SirAndy |
Jun 23 2005, 08:59 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
you've got too much money on your hands ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) wanna adopt me? i have a green thumb (comes in handy for the yard and the garden), i can cook, clean the pool, handy with tools, heck, i can even weld! papa? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) on a more serious note, i'd hate to see all that money spend on the 914 go down the drain ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) Andy PS: but if you're selling, i'll take the engine off yer back if the price is right! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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nine14cats |
Jun 23 2005, 09:03 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
hmmm....that could be an idea.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
Interested in the whole enchilada? I know you like Mexican! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) Bill P. |
SirAndy |
Jun 23 2005, 09:07 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
interested? yes! but i'd have to sell my firstborn to afford that enchilada .... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) Andy |
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J P Stein |
Jun 23 2005, 09:17 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Hay Bill:
Did I tell ya about the Boxster I trailered home from one of our AXs. 2004 model....short version....the oil pump fried then the motor seized.... while the dealer's guy was driving it. Sure, he gets a new motor.....you wouldn't. None of them water pumper motors (cept the GT2,3,turbo, cup cars ....30K for a rebuild, yada) are worth spit. Generally(IMO), big motors mean big class, big cla$$ = cup cars & such. Not to be rude, but do you wanna race or be a mobile chicane? Were it me, I'd go to a smaller motor (2.8/3.0) & find some competition with guys I could afford to run with.....guys with a small fortune who are determined to make it smaller. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
grantsfo |
Jun 23 2005, 09:34 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Your Boxster weight is off, New Boxsters range from 2850 to 2950 lbs. Earlier models were even less I believe.
Its pretty easy to shed weight from the Boxster. Remove convertible top mechanism, go with fiberglass or carbon fiber body panels and hoods, Lightweight headers and exhaust, lose all the airbags and interior crap, lightweight wheels, I think coilovers are lighter as well, lose the electronic seats in favor of GT3 or lightweight race seats And dont forget you can drop a 3.4 liter engine in the Boxster. Boxster racing board is a good resource. http://www.iq.dynip.com/~racing/index.cgi Dont forget about the new Cayman. Its what the boxster should have been originally. |
drew365 |
Jun 23 2005, 09:36 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
As soon as I read about the Cayman, I tried to figure how I could get one to put on the track.
Then I figured I could save a lot of money by buying a cheap used Boxster, gut it and put in a good motor. I'm going to see how far I can push the 914 before I do anything, but at some point I'd like to show the tail draggers they can be beat by a midengine and I'm not sure the 914 is gonna do it. I ran one event in my friends 911 and I was faster than in my 914 even though he runs in a near stock class. I don't know what the damn secret is with the 911 but it pisses me off. Vendettas are expensive! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif) |
nine14kitten |
Jun 23 2005, 09:51 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 19-March 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,788 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/barf.gif) ok, you guys,,,,,,I'm going to need some help restraining Billy from buying a 911.... He said it best..." this is worse than CRACK!!" I"m scoping out the house for good places to hide the keyboard.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving-girl.gif)
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nine14cats |
Jun 23 2005, 09:53 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif)
It's war in the Pickering household!....Doris wants to stay 914....I say nuke it from orbit and buy a 993! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) Bill P. |
nine14kitten |
Jun 23 2005, 09:53 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 19-March 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,788 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif) he's just jealous that I was catching up to him in autocrossing, so now he wants to get a track car.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rocking nana.gif)
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nine14cats |
Jun 23 2005, 09:58 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Ouch!!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif)
Hmmm...she has gotten faster and faster.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving-girl.gif) |
nine14cats |
Jun 23 2005, 10:03 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Hey JP,
What do you think of the pre varioram 993's? I've got a spare 993 motor, so I'm set for years of track use if I get one. Just add a cage, a few other goodies and voila....track car! Bill P. |
SirAndy |
Jun 23 2005, 10:06 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
sit back and enjoy the show! (IMG:http://forums.emuparadise.org/smilies/lurk.gif)
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VegasRacer |
Jun 23 2005, 10:11 PM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,518 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None |
Adding fuel to the fire (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif)
Some place in the last week or so I saw an ad that this car is for sale. I can't remember where it was listed. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Attached image(s) |
nine14cats |
Jun 23 2005, 10:19 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Hi John,
I'm kind partial to this one.... kinda looks like our old 914 that Felix has now.... Attached image(s) |
nine14cats |
Jun 23 2005, 10:19 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
another...
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nine14cats |
Jun 23 2005, 10:20 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
last one...
I could have fun in this thing! Attached image(s) |
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